Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:62767) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SfY4b-00035n-IM; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:04:36 -0700 Received: by daek18 with SMTP id k18sf2705900dae.16 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:04:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JXq7/p7P/phaiHO5WbZ76STZuU8MWmp2Nk+M34TTx7E=; b=bRoD2pihzTY+FihE0SKe2OE+/qZOsMQfUEyuohHaEH5XzpVKg4/aqL7P7icQkp0NZn h88REOa0oYzkOle6u76ZqQWUB9L4GG69QreuI2wXnZ7cYEodS+inIKoosd6oMVX33IWR PH+yxAhxB4FPyqzwm9wipMPJbD4U6AoYhLXTw= Received: by 10.236.195.8 with SMTP id o8mr948228yhn.18.1339772661899; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:04:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.124.81 with SMTP id w57ls3141887yhh.2.gmail; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.180.106 with SMTP id i70mr940565yhm.6.1339772661234; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:04:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaiden Bell To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <5d6e41ae-b481-4292-a581-077555189339@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <173a7e7d-d99c-4a04-9d58-13f3bd639fd9@googlegroups.com> <3a68a48f-3e43-4450-b4a6-a3ea1077b7bc@googlegroups.com> <967ee71e-9aaa-4df2-b3b5-3e7f9d504f91@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Bridi as Sumti MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: azuritiss@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of azuritiss@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=azuritiss@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1813_4291980.1339772660494" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 11352 ------=_Part_1813_4291980.1339772660494 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Okay, thanks for the help! On Friday, June 15, 2012 10:58:10 AM UTC-4, aionys wrote: > > Just what you said. > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Jaiden Bell wrote: > >> So then what is the purpose of be and be'o? >> >> >> On Friday, June 15, 2012 10:33:31 AM UTC-4, aionys wrote: >>> >>> Approximately. bei indicates that another sumti is being attached, sumti >>> don't typically need anything to signal being separate- the "start >>> indicator" - as you call it - lo is enough by itself. >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Jaiden Bell wrote: >>> >>>> Okay thanks, I think that that makes some sense. But to be clear: the >>>> words be and be'o act as start and end indicators (sort of) and bei >>>> separates each sumti, correct? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:11:40 PM UTC-4, aionys wrote: >>>>> >>>>> bridi: broda ko'a ko'e ko'i ko'o >>>>> >>>>> sumti: lo broda be ko'a bei ko'e bei ko'i bei ko'o be'o >>>>> >>>>> You only need bei and be'o if you're wanting the bridi to have the >>>>> places after x2 filled, you only need be if you want the x2 filled, lo >>>>> steals the x1 place. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Jaiden Bell wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Can anyone help me understand how to turn a bridi into a sumti? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ >>>>>> **ms**g/lojban-beginners/-/**voSaBccG3**fkJ >>>>>> . >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.** >>>>>> **com . >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@**g**ooglegroups.com >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>>>> group**/lojban-beginners?hl=en >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>>> >>>>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >>>>> (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Friday, June 15, 2012 10:58:10 AM UTC-= 4, aionys wrote:
Just what you = said.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Ja= iden Bell <azuritiss@gmail.com> wrote:
So then what is the purpose of be and be'o?


On Friday, Jun= e 15, 2012 10:33:31 AM UTC-4, aionys wrote:
Approximately. bei indicates that another sumti is being attached, sumti do= n't typically need anything to signal being separate- the "start indicator"= - as you call it - lo is enough by itself.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Jaiden Bell <azuritiss@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
Okay thanks, I think that that makes some sense. But to be clear: the words= be and be'o act as start and end indicators (sort of) and bei separates ea= ch sumti, correct?


On Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:11:40 PM = UTC-4, aionys wrote:
bridi: broda ko'a ko'e ko'i ko'o

sumti: lo broda be ko'a bei ko'e be= i ko'i bei ko'o be'o

You only need bei and be'o if you're wanting th= e bridi to have the places after x2 filled, you only need be if you want th= e x2 filled, lo steals the x1 place.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Jaiden Bell= <azuritiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Can anyone help me understand how to turn a bridi into a sumti?

Thanks in advance.

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