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"We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own."

It's fairly obvious that "add" is the keyword here- the entire sentence is
built from that relationship. In Lojban, "add" is {jmina} "x1 combines x2
with x3...". Similarly, the "will" is just {ba}. The hard part in this is
"biological and technological". We have {mivyske} "x1 is biology based on
methodology x2" and {zbaske} "x1 is the technology of product x2...". The
definition of both "biological" and "technological" is "pertaining to
[biology/technology]", so we want to add {srana} "x1 pertains to x2" to
them to get our desired words, so we have {mivyskera'a} "x1 pertains to
biology" and {zbaskera'a} "x1 pertains to technology".

Next, we have to say "distinctiveness". After some thought, I determined
that the best way would be to use {po} "specific to". This is mainly
because it reduces the amount we have to say. We also probably want to use
{po'o] "...uniquely", which asserts that the relationship is unique to the
sumti it is attached to.  So, now we just have to put it all together:

{mi'a ba jmina lo mivyskera'a je zbaskera'a po do po'o ri po mi'a}

Now we have the first three sentences:

"We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add
your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own."
{mi'a selcme zo.borg. .i ko sisti lonu nensabji lo nencalku kei gi'e
radydu'a lo do keslo'i .i mi'a ba jmina lo mivyskera'a je zbaskera'a po do
po'o ri po mi'a}

We have two more left, which I'll do in the next email.

-- 
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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&quot;We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our =
own.&quot;<br><br>It&#39;s fairly obvious that &quot;add&quot; is the keywo=
rd here- the entire sentence is built from that relationship. In Lojban, &q=
uot;add&quot; is {jmina} &quot;x1 combines x2 with x3...&quot;. Similarly, =
the &quot;will&quot; is just {ba}. The hard part in this is &quot;biologica=
l and technological&quot;. We have {mivyske} &quot;x1 is biology based on m=
ethodology x2&quot; and {zbaske} &quot;x1 is the technology of product x2..=
.&quot;. The definition of both &quot;biological&quot; and &quot;technologi=
cal&quot; is &quot;pertaining to [biology/technology]&quot;, so we want to =
add {srana} &quot;x1 pertains to x2&quot; to them to get our desired words,=
 so we have {mivyskera&#39;a} &quot;x1 pertains to biology&quot; and {zbask=
era&#39;a} &quot;x1 pertains to technology&quot;.<br>
<br>Next, we have to say &quot;distinctiveness&quot;. After some thought, I=
 determined that the best way would be to use {po} &quot;specific to&quot;.=
 This is mainly because it reduces the amount we have to say. We also proba=
bly want to use {po&#39;o] &quot;...uniquely&quot;, which asserts that the =
relationship is unique to the sumti it is attached to.=A0 So, now we just h=
ave to put it all together:<br>
<br>{mi&#39;a ba jmina lo mivyskera&#39;a je zbaskera&#39;a po do po&#39;o =
ri po mi&#39;a}<br><br>Now we have the first three sentences:<br><br>

&quot;We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will=
 add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.&quot;<br=
>{mi&#39;a selcme zo.borg. .i ko sisti lonu nensabji lo nencalku kei gi&#39=
;e radydu&#39;a lo do keslo&#39;i .i mi&#39;a ba jmina lo mivyskera&#39;a j=
e zbaskera&#39;a po do po&#39;o ri po mi&#39;a}<br>
<br>We have two more left, which I&#39;ll do in the next email.<br clear=3D=
"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima l=
o pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Si=
de! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br>


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