Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:46777) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Siecn-0004bQ-FS; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:40:42 -0700 Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13sf2121497wer.16 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:40:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=F0emH3sDdyMwscRll/rkURNf9jQsaSmf1UJM+CdRkqc=; b=BsA0Y0gTMkTX6ehLGf1/AezFi991XDpzu2szm3m9m7REBMXPxzmcUAlrC8b72zkU8G cZhzbiLPtjU+nP9x/h963maRMQCG0kk0PWRfqpPA+LG9taA2aN7tXBcAs9ochoA3LuHP JmIuze6KN0qArHQOmpA0K4iZNfkLT0Ac3mjl0= Received: by 10.216.215.105 with SMTP id d83mr183060wep.34.1340512824478; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:40:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.97.10 with SMTP id dw10ls1057564wib.0.gmail; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.98.199 with SMTP id ek7mr1082499wib.0.1340512822966; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.98.199 with SMTP id ek7mr1082498wib.0.1340512822955; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com (mail-wi0-f174.google.com [209.85.212.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ei10si1108702wid.0.2012.06.23.21.40.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of r.d.t.prater@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.174; Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so504211wib.15 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:40:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.80.37 with SMTP id o5mr15344386wix.12.1340512822661; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.217.39 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:40:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 21:40:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] my first translation From: Devin Prater To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: r.d.t.prater@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of r.d.t.prater@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=r.d.t.prater@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 3967 OK, thank you! I will probably need to learn more Lojban before trying other translations. I used the Lojban-English/English-Lojban dictionary for most of the gismu/lujvo. On 6/23/12, .arpis. wrote: > ki'e sai .aionys. > > I found that extremely informative and would appreciate any similar > description for future translations you do that you are willing to > provide. > .i mi mutce se jungau gi'e ba da'i ckire tu'a lo simsa velski be lo nu > ba xe fanva ku ku poi do nalpro fi lo nu sabji > > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> That's actually the reason behind me going through my thought process, >> rather than merely submitting my translation. This is not the first >> translation project I've attempted, nor likely the last, so I have some >> experience in hte hidden difficulties that lie within. >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Devin Prater >> wrote: >>> >>> Wow. You've given me some insight on the translation process, that I >>> shouldn't translate just the words, but the true meaning, which is a >>> little tricky sometimes, like with lower your shields. I think I >>> should learn more Lojban before tackling things like this, I thought >>> this would be quite simple. >>> >>> On 6/23/12, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>> > I made a rather annoying mistake. I completely forgot to separate the >>> > two >>> > sentences. There needs to be an {.i} in there. >>> > >>> > {mi'a selcme zo.borg. *.i* ko sisti lonu nensabji lo nencalku kei gi'e >>> > radydu'a lo do keslo'i} >>> > >>> > -- >>> > mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>> > >>> > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >>> > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > Groups >>> > "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to >>> > lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .arpis. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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