Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:37283) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sif0d-0004iZ-IP; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:05:21 -0700 Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13sf2131343wer.16 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:05:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=u1m6AsNCvD4smo7NCcLKohofxxDN8y8nuGsGG0cix6A=; b=ts3BAM8QPLVcXU3JQ6+A+vayVmBW3H3aMFwPm7Xbva1vCJbH735yfaXYxsmxm8n6RF a8ezQ5C2HeSh6EHt/AFEsifM53gLohMM5RCDqODlJ7zMivbxLkL+7tCHLC/o5tyI2nSt JBzd+FiIkvMqNffZmDDKv3VybrzAnF3Zl6OWk= Received: by 10.204.154.141 with SMTP id o13mr372518bkw.25.1340514306766; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:05:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.145 with SMTP id t17ls2853673bks.8.gmail; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.149.210 with SMTP id u18mr795852bkv.1.1340514305697; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.149.210 with SMTP id u18mr795851bkv.1.1340514305591; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f171.google.com (mail-lb0-f171.google.com [209.85.217.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ig3si9708124bkc.3.2012.06.23.22.05.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.171; Received: by lbom4 with SMTP id m4so4819259lbo.30 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:05:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.148.161 with SMTP id tt1mr7669390lab.4.1340514305103; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.46.36 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.46.36 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 22:05:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 23:05:05 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] my first translation From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f22bb3df8d72804c330ce57 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 10325 --e89a8f22bb3df8d72804c330ce57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Certainly. I'll try to remember to do so. to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi mu'o mi'e.aionys. On Jun 23, 2012 10:27 PM, ".arpis." wrote: > ki'e sai .aionys. > > I found that extremely informative and would appreciate any similar > description for future translations you do that you are willing to > provide. > .i mi mutce se jungau gi'e ba da'i ckire tu'a lo simsa velski be lo nu > ba xe fanva ku ku poi do nalpro fi lo nu sabji > > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Jonathan Jones > wrote: > > That's actually the reason behind me going through my thought process, > > rather than merely submitting my translation. This is not the first > > translation project I've attempted, nor likely the last, so I have some > > experience in hte hidden difficulties that lie within. > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Devin Prater > > wrote: > >> > >> Wow. You've given me some insight on the translation process, that I > >> shouldn't translate just the words, but the true meaning, which is a > >> little tricky sometimes, like with lower your shields. I think I > >> should learn more Lojban before tackling things like this, I thought > >> this would be quite simple. > >> > >> On 6/23/12, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> > I made a rather annoying mistake. I completely forgot to separate the > >> > two > >> > sentences. There needs to be an {.i} in there. > >> > > >> > {mi'a selcme zo.borg. *.i* ko sisti lonu nensabji lo nencalku kei gi'e > >> > radydu'a lo do keslo'i} > >> > > >> > -- > >> > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > >> > > >> > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > >> > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups > >> > "Lojban Beginners" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to > lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >> > For more options, visit this group at > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Lojban Beginners" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > > (Come to the Dot Side! 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Certainly. I'll try to remember to do so.

to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi
mu'o mi'e.aionys.

On Jun 23, 2012 10:27 PM, ".arpis." &l= t;rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.= com> wrote:
ki'e sai .aionys.

I found that extremely informative and would appreciate any similar
description for future translations you do that you are willing to
provide.
.i mi mutce se jungau gi'e ba da'i ckire tu'a lo simsa velski b= e lo nu
ba xe fanva ku ku poi do nalpro fi lo nu sabji

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's actually the reason behind me going through my thought proc= ess,
> rather than merely submitting my translation. This is not the first > translation project I've attempted, nor likely the last, so I have= some
> experience in hte hidden difficulties that lie within.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Wow. You've given me some insight on the translation process, = that I
>> shouldn't translate just the words, but the true meaning, whic= h is a
>> little tricky sometimes, like with lower your shields. I think I >> should learn more Lojban before tackling things like this, I thoug= ht
>> this would be quite simple.
>>
>> On 6/23/12, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I made a rather annoying mistake. I completely forgot to sepa= rate the
>> > two
>> > sentences. There needs to be an {.i} in there.
>> >
>> > {mi'a selcme zo.borg. *.i* ko sisti lonu nensabji lo nenc= alku kei gi'e
>> > radydu'a lo do keslo'i}
>> >
>> > --
>> > mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>> >
>> > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi pa= tfu do zo'o
>> > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>> >
>> > --
>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the G= oogle
>> > Groups
>> > "Lojban Beginners" group.
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>> >
>> >
>>
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>
>
>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo= 'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>
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