On 24 June 2012 15:14, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prat= er@gmail.com> wrote:

Oh, I am not discouraged. I just need to lea= rn a bit more about the
language and how it works more, and practice thinking more logically,
I'm thinking about the "ship" thing now, I can't believe = I called a
starship a boat. I think translating things like this is a sort of
creativity, because breaking things down from English words to what
they truly are takes much creativeness, there doesn't seem to be many word-to-word translations from English to Lojban, well not many in
this case anyways. Thanks for your help and guidance.

On 6/23/12, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> Certainly. I'll try to remember to do so.
>
> to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi
> mu'o mi'e.aionys.
> On Jun 23, 2012 10:27 PM, ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
>
>> ki'e sai .aionys.
>>
>> I found that extremely informative and would appreciate any simila= r
>> description for future translations you do that you are willing to=
>> provide.
>> .i mi mutce se jungau gi'e ba da'i ckire tu'a lo simsa= velski be lo nu
>> ba xe fanva ku ku poi do nalpro fi lo nu sabji
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > That's actually the reason behind me going through my tho= ught process,
>> > rather than merely submitting my translation. This is not the= first
>> > translation project I've attempted, nor likely the last, = so I have some
>> > experience in hte hidden difficulties that lie within.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com= >
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Wow. You've given me some insight on the translation = process, that I
>> >> shouldn't translate just the words, but the true mean= ing, which is a
>> >> little tricky sometimes, like with lower your shields. I = think I
>> >> should learn more Lojban before tackling things like this= , I thought
>> >> this would be quite simple.
>> >>
>> >> On 6/23/12, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > I made a rather annoying mistake. I completely forgo= t to separate
>> >> > the
>> >> > two
>> >> > sentences. There needs to be an {.i} in there.
>> >> >
>> >> > {mi'a selcme zo.borg. *.i* ko sisti lonu nensabj= i lo nencalku kei
>> >> > gi'e
>> >> > radydu'a lo do keslo'i}
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>> >> >
>> >> > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.l= uk. mi patfu do zo'o
>> >> > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<= br> >> >> >
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