Received: from mail-vc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:61739) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SkHdj-0000hW-Jp; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:32:28 -0700 Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14sf2285952vcb.16 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:32:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=1cKAfHZEgpm4S3KGDNDlRI7wa9o3iK+mRpyx0g+xVq4=; b=vQQgQFw4GBSUbkXZcZUBXr3Qs1QWgjMH1Hg8AS80EAh26S9q2W27OHhTH/FywKvgd/ cETk4tGIAg/u9bGsLWHj6KtNZCx59v3e+Kuv0ESTGFeD9+jbxO9dlv3TiiarcEI6mVTe IQPzP8mP/fjXARb1wAebvGFhm++X9ysLD6xn8= Received: by 10.236.114.193 with SMTP id c41mr395711yhh.17.1340901132855; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:32:12 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.141.11 with SMTP id f11ls5135048yhj.9.gmail; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.173.230 with SMTP id v66mr4344517yhl.4.1340901131514; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.173.230 with SMTP id v66mr4344516yhl.4.1340901131504; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e37si11132962yhi.1.2012.06.28.09.32.10; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1780128A68 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:32:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Visual mem for pinxe on Memrise. Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:32:07 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201206280135.10181.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201206281232.08320.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 861 On Thursday 28 June 2012 11:03:54 Jonathan Jones wrote: > No, it's definietely lonu simxu, not luno kansa. re prenu cu simxu lonu > pinxe simxu: x1 (set) has members who mutually/reciprocally x2 (event [x1 should be reflexive in 1+ sumti]). So "lu'i re prenu cu simxu lo nu pinxe", if the two people are Alice and Bob, means that Alice drinks Bob and Bob drinks Alice. That's not what the drawing shows. It shows Alice and Bob both drinking from one cup. Pierre -- gau do li'i co'e kei do -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.