Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:37760) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SkMcc-00039D-QR; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:51:36 -0700 Received: by ghbf16 with SMTP id f16sf2596323ghb.16 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:51:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=XHA0x39K5poApqYhN/YVm3DNdSg8CyVyVElLI+ySRjs=; b=QzBiPr19Z2hZhN2WntIkEHMg9GvN7ADsGp1aIXeqsOKwgJ2bTMAwQFgwApVIc8abGw ZF0oE40F7cm35NsJXEPq8HfzQj6GyQw6TQrFLgHD+4TEw2MbfInM56IB4ZVthr8Vecu9 QsVccdH4Ymcu/jk/wEz3+RgM44Mx9sawbAoRk= Received: by 10.68.211.6 with SMTP id my6mr984328pbc.18.1340920284045; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:51:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.211.194 with SMTP id ne2ls9563260pbc.9.gmail; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.220.230 with SMTP id pz6mr3257008pbc.3.1340920282515; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.220.230 with SMTP id pz6mr3257003pbc.3.1340920282464; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f52.google.com (mail-pb0-f52.google.com [209.85.160.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id tf10si430663pbc.0.2012.06.28.14.51.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.52; Received: by pbbro8 with SMTP id ro8so4003306pbb.11 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:51:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.240.73 with SMTP id vy9mr11516198pbc.102.1340920282107; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.44.71 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:51:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201206281232.08320.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201206280135.10181.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201206281232.08320.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:51:22 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Visual mem for pinxe on Memrise. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Felipe_Gon=E7alves_Assis?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: felipeg.assis@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=felipeg.assis@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1585 Doesn't it make more sense to have a relation as simxu2? {[lu'i] lo re prenu cu simxu lo ka ce'u pinxe ce'u} "Two people drink one another." The reciprocity I vaguely see in the second picture is {lo re pinxe cu simxu lo ka ce'u nelci ce'u}. mu'o mi'e .asiz. On 28 June 2012 13:32, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Thursday 28 June 2012 11:03:54 Jonathan Jones wrote: >> No, it's definietely lonu simxu, not luno kansa. re prenu cu simxu lonu >> pinxe > > simxu: x1 (set) has members who mutually/reciprocally x2 (event [x1 should be > reflexive in 1+ sumti]). So "lu'i re prenu cu simxu lo nu pinxe", if the two > people are Alice and Bob, means that Alice drinks Bob and Bob drinks Alice. > That's not what the drawing shows. It shows Alice and Bob both drinking from > one cup. > > Pierre > -- > gau do li'i co'e kei do > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.