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On Sunday, July 8, 2012 10:10:36 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
>
> Personally, being one of those people who hates fu'ivla of any kind, I 
> like {tsiplise}, myself.
>

(facepalm) 
I like this word too. Should I create a third version of this<https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=236246119829979&set=a.178456172275641.38135.100003337779349&type=3&theater>
 pixra?

>
> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, July 08, 2012 01:10:26 AM gleki wrote:
>> > Type 3 fu'ivla is not unnaturalistic at all. Ancient Egyptian (ju'ocu'i 
>> the
>> > eldest written language that we are aware of)
>> > actually had such type of words.
>> > e.g.
>> > [image: nfr][image: nfr][image: nfr][image: pr] pronounced as *nfrw 
>> *means
>> > "foundations of a house" where [image: pr] means house in order to
>> > distinguish it from other homophones pronounced as *nfrw* as well.
>> >
>> > It's like {grutrgranate} and {tricrgranate} in Lojban.
>>
>> The Egyptian writing system has nothing to do with rafsi classifiers on
>> borrowed words. A better natlang example of a type-3 fu'ivla is 
>> "weeverfish"
>> (or "weaverfish"), where "weever" is from Old French and "fish" is native.
>>
>> On Sunday, July 08, 2012 01:11:35 AM gleki wrote:
>> > Sorry to say but I have to support Lindar's {granatu} Type 4 fu'ivla.
>> > Don't ask me for any logic in such decision cuz I said earlier there 
>> could
>> > be no logic in this field at all.
>>
>> It could be "granatu" or "granato" in my opinion, but I prefer both of 
>> them to
>> "granate", which is the vocative, which was lost.
>>
>> Another possibility is "rimbone" or "rumbona", from Semitic, with "b" 
>> thrown
>> in for the morphology.
>>
>> Pierre
>> --
>> li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa
>>
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>
>
> -- 
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>
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<br><br>On Sunday, July 8, 2012 10:10:36 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:<blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Personally, being one of those people who=
 hates fu'ivla of any kind, I like {tsiplise}, myself.<br></blockquote><div=
><br></div><div>(facepalm)&nbsp;</div><div>I like this word too. Should I c=
reate a third version of <a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=
=3D236246119829979&amp;set=3Da.178456172275641.38135.100003337779349&amp;ty=
pe=3D3&amp;theater">this</a>&nbsp;pixra?</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left: 1ex;"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 11:48=
 AM, Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@phma.optus.n=
u" target=3D"_blank">phma@phma.optus.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Sunday, July 08, 2012 01:10:26 AM gl=
eki wrote:<br>
&gt; Type 3 fu'ivla is not unnaturalistic at all. Ancient Egyptian (ju'ocu'=
i the<br>
&gt; eldest written language that we are aware of)<br>
&gt; actually had such type of words.<br>
&gt; e.g.<br>
</div>&gt; [image: nfr][image: nfr][image: nfr][image: pr] pronounced as *n=
frw *means<br>
<div>&gt; "foundations of a house" where [image: pr] means house in order t=
o<br>
</div>&gt; distinguish it from other homophones pronounced as *nfrw* as wel=
l.<br>
<div>&gt;<br>
&gt; It's like {grutrgranate} and {tricrgranate} in Lojban.<br>
<br>
</div>The Egyptian writing system has nothing to do with rafsi classifiers =
on<br>
borrowed words. A better natlang example of a type-3 fu'ivla is "weeverfish=
"<br>
(or "weaverfish"), where "weever" is from Old French and "fish" is native.<=
br>
<div><br>
On Sunday, July 08, 2012 01:11:35 AM gleki wrote:<br>
&gt; Sorry to say but I have to support Lindar's {granatu} Type 4 fu'ivla.<=
br>
&gt; Don't ask me for any logic in such decision cuz I said earlier there c=
ould<br>
&gt; be no logic in this field at all.<br>
<br>
</div>It could be "granatu" or "granato" in my opinion, but I prefer both o=
f them to<br>
"granate", which is the vocative, which was lost.<br>
<br>
Another possibility is "rimbone" or "rumbona", from Semitic, with "b" throw=
n<br>
in for the morphology.<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Pierre<br>
--<br>
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