On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 11:32 PM, gleki <= gleki.is.my= .name@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, July 8, 2012 10= :10:36 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
Personally, being one of those people who hates fu'ivla of any kind, I = like {tsiplise}, myself.

(facepal= m)=A0
I like this word too. Should I create a third version of this=A0pixra?

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@p= hma.optus.nu> wrote:

On Sunday, July 08, 2012 01:10:26 AM gl= eki wrote:
> Type 3 fu'ivla is not unnaturalistic at all. Ancient Egyptian (ju&= #39;ocu'i the
> eldest written language that we are aware of)
> actually had such type of words.
> e.g.

> [image: nfr][image: nfr][image: nfr][image: pr] pronounced as *n= frw *means

> "foundations of a house" where [image: pr] means house = in order to

> distinguish it from other homophones pronounced as *nfrw* as wel= l.

>
> It's like {grutrgranate} and {tricrgranate} in Lojban.

The Egyptian writing system has nothing to do with rafsi classifiers = on
borrowed words. A better natlang example of a type-3 fu'ivla is "w= eeverfish"
(or "weaverfish"), where "weever" is from Old French an= d "fish" is native.

On Sunday, July 08, 2012 01:11:35 AM gleki wrote:
> Sorry to say but I have to support Lindar's {granatu} Type 4 fu= 9;ivla.
> Don't ask me for any logic in such decision cuz I said earlier the= re could
> be no logic in this field at all.

It could be "granatu" or "granato" in my opinion,= but I prefer both of them to
"granate", which is the vocative, which was lost.

Another possibility is "rimbone" or "rumbona", from Sem= itic, with "b" thrown
in for the morphology.

Pierre
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