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  The short answer is "no".  "mi'e" assigns what "mi" refers to, but it
doesn't itself fill a spot in the sentence.  So what you proposed means "I
am Bird, Cat is loved".  What you CAN do is something like "mi no'u la
cipni cu prami la mlatu" (or equivalently "la cipni no'u mi prami la mlatu"
(you can also use "goi" instead of no'u in these two sentences, as well))
                --gejyspa


On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Paul Predkiewicz <paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Oh i see. I wasn't aware of that.
>
> Well, the reaccuring la remains though, which i somehow find slightly
> unaesthetic, so what about my idea of using {mi'e}?
> Another reason why i ask if {mi'e} can be used is that {la cipni ku
> prami la mlatu} sounds like a very generic statement. Like "The monkey
> eats a banana." instead of {mi'e cipni ku prami la mlatu} which kind
> of adds the info that cipni is the one saying this and for me it
> sounds more like a confession.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@gmail.com> wrote:
> > You're actually perfectly allowed to use {cipni} and {mlatu} as names,
> but
> > you have to terminate them.
> >
> > {la cipni ku ze'e prami la mlatu}
> > {la mlatu ku ze'e prami la cipni}
> >
> > Perfectly valid Lojban.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=A0 The short answer is &quot;no&quot;. =A0&quot;mi&#39;e&=
quot; assigns what &quot;mi&quot; refers to, but it doesn&#39;t itself fill=
 a spot in the sentence. =A0So what you proposed means &quot;I am Bird, Cat=
 is loved&quot;. =A0What you CAN do is something like &quot;mi no&#39;u la =
cipni cu prami la mlatu&quot; (or equivalently &quot;la cipni no&#39;u mi p=
rami la mlatu&quot; (you can also use &quot;goi&quot; instead of no&#39;u i=
n these two sentences, as well))<div>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Paul Predkiewicz <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">pau=
l.predkiewicz@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Oh i see. I wasn&#39;t aware of that.<br>
<br>
Well, the reaccuring la remains though, which i somehow find slightly<br>
unaesthetic, so what about my idea of using {mi&#39;e}?<br>
Another reason why i ask if {mi&#39;e} can be used is that {la cipni ku<br>
prami la mlatu} sounds like a very generic statement. Like &quot;The monkey=
<br>
eats a banana.&quot; instead of {mi&#39;e cipni ku prami la mlatu} which ki=
nd<br>
of adds the info that cipni is the one saying this and for me it<br>
sounds more like a confession.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Lindar &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lindarthebard@=
gmail.com">lindarthebard@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; You&#39;re actually perfectly allowed to use {cipni} and {mlatu} as na=
mes, but<br>
&gt; you have to terminate them.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; {la cipni ku ze&#39;e prami la mlatu}<br>
&gt; {la mlatu ku ze&#39;e prami la cipni}<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Perfectly valid Lojban.<br>
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