Received: from mail-vc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:37793) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SoEUu-0003ZP-Q0; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 06:59:34 -0700 Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14sf13720003vcb.16 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 06:59:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IKi5zZKoQhD4NqoMKrNiDLxoqBcH4uk3LUL6U0SOnH8=; b=xCmFeDqBS8bDPBShjvqz3M++tIdDhF9bzFUjqyKqDb4A/IEBPUsljJIqiej5Va31x/ Svf+99zQG1DTYifro4k2tCDUBHlF1c/r2JMOfrL9xuw+evV4wr29usAa7VGQY2YgGL6Z t+KZawqcmJNj8TrYmocVOTRZiHqk/IVdTuXTo= Received: by 10.52.173.49 with SMTP id bh17mr7817vdc.2.1341842366009; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 06:59:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.100.72 with SMTP id ew8ls123627vdb.9.gmail; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 06:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.89.129 with SMTP id bo1mr31593511vdb.0.1341842365304; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 06:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.89.129 with SMTP id bo1mr31593510vdb.0.1341842365295; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 06:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f48.google.com (mail-vb0-f48.google.com [209.85.212.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y4si82471vds.2.2012.07.09.06.59.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 09 Jul 2012 06:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.48; Received: by vbjk17 with SMTP id k17so9909857vbj.21 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 06:59:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.115.12 with SMTP id g12mr19211902vcq.44.1341842365044; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 06:59:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.21.143 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 06:58:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0adc70ab-9070-49cd-8922-100e3da23ed5@googlegroups.com> From: Paul Predkiewicz Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:58:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Wedding ring engraving To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 3106 Thanks alot, now i just hope it fits in the ring :D On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > The short answer is "no". "mi'e" assigns what "mi" refers to, but it > doesn't itself fill a spot in the sentence. So what you proposed means "I > am Bird, Cat is loved". What you CAN do is something like "mi no'u la cipni > cu prami la mlatu" (or equivalently "la cipni no'u mi prami la mlatu" (you > can also use "goi" instead of no'u in these two sentences, as well)) > --gejyspa > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Paul Predkiewicz > wrote: >> >> Oh i see. I wasn't aware of that. >> >> Well, the reaccuring la remains though, which i somehow find slightly >> unaesthetic, so what about my idea of using {mi'e}? >> Another reason why i ask if {mi'e} can be used is that {la cipni ku >> prami la mlatu} sounds like a very generic statement. Like "The monkey >> eats a banana." instead of {mi'e cipni ku prami la mlatu} which kind >> of adds the info that cipni is the one saying this and for me it >> sounds more like a confession. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Lindar wrote: >> > You're actually perfectly allowed to use {cipni} and {mlatu} as names, >> > but >> > you have to terminate them. >> > >> > {la cipni ku ze'e prami la mlatu} >> > {la mlatu ku ze'e prami la cipni} >> > >> > Perfectly valid Lojban. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "Lojban Beginners" group. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/YraW3scFZtsJ. >> > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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