Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:62948) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SoEqK-0003u3-CO; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:21:45 -0700 Received: by fadw1 with SMTP id w1sf4039683fad.16 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:21:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-virus-scanned:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=9wTJZgEE/0EiuQKrQ/TkkytaKTrbW5ULWHvc7UDuxLI=; b=D0YyCXiVKP2cpco7bcQvms7RXctNtRSHP2CRzoEQyIpGq7gCdt81T/191kXPMh5rvU h9s64ajGNcQTGtwf5AqVV/g2uDjhBZN6cbZwbLWMHFL5IUWbroP57pmxMi5br9fgWqyK JrMzIPPTCDBJ0K5g6JAoiSF/RxPuP0taxKtjU= Received: by 10.205.120.3 with SMTP id fw3mr533636bkc.11.1341843691015; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:21:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.143.150 with SMTP id v22ls272690bku.1.gmail; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.151.213 with SMTP id d21mr1999362bkw.0.1341843689166; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.151.213 with SMTP id d21mr1999361bkw.0.1341843689101; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.wouldyoubuythis.net (mail.wybt.net. [195.191.196.3]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p5si16541177bks.1.2012.07.09.07.21.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 195.191.196.3 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de) client-ip=195.191.196.3; Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wouldyoubuythis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A147480CC for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 16:18:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.wybt.net Received: from mail.wouldyoubuythis.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.wybt.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dhh6PLDxYhPp for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 16:18:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (HSI-KBW-109-193-014-246.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de [109.193.14.246]) by mail.wouldyoubuythis.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1AB7948093 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 16:18:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 16:21:24 +0200 From: Timo Paulssen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Wedding ring engraving Message-ID: <20120709162124.77f5b8e0@wakelfit.de> In-Reply-To: References: <0adc70ab-9070-49cd-8922-100e3da23ed5@googlegroups.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 195.191.196.3 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de) smtp.mail=timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 946 On Mon, 9 Jul 2012 08:37:50 -0400 Michael Turniansky wrote: > The short answer is "no". "mi'e" assigns what "mi" refers to, but > it doesn't itself fill a spot in the sentence. So what you proposed > means "I am Bird, Cat is loved". What you CAN do is something like > "mi no'u la cipni cu prami la mlatu" (or equivalently "la cipni no'u > mi prami la mlatu" (you can also use "goi" instead of no'u in these > two sentences, as well)) --gejyspa How about this, instead? { mi'e la cipnis noi ze'e prami la mlat } I'm Bird, who eternally loves Cat. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.