Received: from mail-qa0-f56.google.com ([209.85.216.56]:57080) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SoPO4-00013o-J5; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:37:13 -0700 Received: by qaas11 with SMTP id s11sf4358370qaa.1 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:37:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wQuuezKWfjQGVhdzIq2TONgRQ4d8CrMKROfCPyBI2VA=; b=bwETY/dRJUXLSk1ApEkUBHyJ4i5Tp5Vxb7khX/+zIiXLUPo+rdjzSzWxKaMry5Qa1X CtnQaidCj09i2JV0+lPDW8PPmXvhHIVEr4tUVg5bZ0hEANXWR/4KGhlmRZY9FsiT9N+u DdTlzAlKFg01dlheCGWyWSIJWC31oOPC3SOKk= Received: by 10.52.67.71 with SMTP id l7mr2614896vdt.12.1341884225864; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:37:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.221.13.130 with SMTP id pm2ls625005vcb.6.gmail; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.179.69 with SMTP id de5mr33661689vdc.7.1341884225033; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.179.69 with SMTP id de5mr33661688vdc.7.1341884225024; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f179.google.com (mail-vc0-f179.google.com [209.85.220.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y4si162323vds.2.2012.07.09.18.37.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.179; Received: by vcbgb23 with SMTP id gb23so8483249vcb.24 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.153.136 with SMTP id k8mr20218392vcw.38.1341884224905; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:37:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.24.193 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 18:36:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0adc70ab-9070-49cd-8922-100e3da23ed5@googlegroups.com> From: Jacob Errington Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 21:36:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Wedding ring engraving To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 2273 .i iu mi no'u la cipni ze'e prami do nu'e la mlatu melrai :P mu'o mi'e la tsani On 9 July 2012 19:42, MorphemeAddict wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Paul Predkiewicz > wrote: >> >> Oh i see. I wasn't aware of that. >> >> Well, the reaccuring la remains though, which i somehow find slightly >> unaesthetic, so what about my idea of using {mi'e}? >> Another reason why i ask if {mi'e} can be used is that {la cipni ku >> prami la mlatu} sounds like a very generic statement. Like "The monkey >> eats a banana." > > > Using =ABla=BB equates to the capitalization of a name, not to anything l= ike > "the". So =ABla cipni ku/cu prami la mlatu=BB means "Bird loves Cat" (but > without the tense of English "loves"). Either of =ABku=BB or =ABcu=BB can= be used in > this case. They differ grammatically, but the result is essentially the s= ame > here. It's not especially generic at all, although each argument can refe= r > to any entity actually called that. > > stevo > > >> >> instead of {mi'e cipni ku prami la mlatu} which kind >> of adds the info that cipni is the one saying this and for me it >> sounds more like a confession. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Lindar wrote: >> > You're actually perfectly allowed to use {cipni} and {mlatu} as names, >> > but >> > you have to terminate them. >> > >> > {la cipni ku ze'e prami la mlatu} >> > {la mlatu ku ze'e prami la cipni} >> > >> > Perfectly valid Lojban. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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