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Content preview: hm i guess i messed up what i meant, i meant {nu'e} grabs {la mlatu} and {do} grabs {nu'e} On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > No, no, it DOES only "touch" the "la mlatu" > > .i iu mi no'u la cipni ze'e prami do nu'e la mlatu -> > [love] I, who is Bird, forever loves you, I promise Cat > iu > mi I (x1 of prami) > no'u la cipni [ge'u] who is Bird > [cu] ze'e forever > prami loving > do you (x2 of prami) > nu'e I-promise > la mlatu Cat (x2 of nu'e) > > The nu'e la mlatu together are free-floating, not tied to anything, much > like .iu > --gejyspa > > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Paul Predkiewicz > wrote: >> >> Ok i just read a bit about all the selma'o, didn't really know about >> it much. i never really got into exploring cmavo, instead tried to >> learn a bunch of gismu first. >> My problem here was, and kinda still is, that i thought {nu'e} would >> only touch the following {la mlatu} and not the preceding {do}. >> But i guess {do}'s definition "identified by vocative" means exactly >> this... >> >> cmavo are pretty much virgin soil for me.. >> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Michael Turniansky >> wrote: >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Paul Predkiewicz >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Jacob Errington >> >> wrote: >> >> > .i iu mi no'u la cipni ze'e prami do nu'e la mlatu >> >> > >> >> > melrai :P >> >> > >> >> > mu'o mi'e la tsani >> >> >> >> That is indeed very cute :3 >> >> i like the nu'e, but wouldnt la mlatu slip into the x3 of prami? Of >> >> course if it had an x3, which it doesn't.. >> >> >> > No. Most people forget that "ne'u" is a COI, so it grabs the "la >> > mlatu" >> > --gejyspa >> > >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (paul.predkiewicz[at]gmail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Content-Length: 2661 hm i guess i messed up what i meant, i meant {nu'e} grabs {la mlatu} and {do} grabs {nu'e} On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > No, no, it DOES only "touch" the "la mlatu" > > .i iu mi no'u la cipni ze'e prami do nu'e la mlatu -> > [love] I, who is Bird, forever loves you, I promise Cat > iu > mi I (x1 of prami) > no'u la cipni [ge'u] who is Bird > [cu] ze'e forever > prami loving > do you (x2 of prami) > nu'e I-promise > la mlatu Cat (x2 of nu'e) > > The nu'e la mlatu together are free-floating, not tied to anything, much > like .iu > --gejyspa > > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Paul Predkiewicz > wrote: >> >> Ok i just read a bit about all the selma'o, didn't really know about >> it much. i never really got into exploring cmavo, instead tried to >> learn a bunch of gismu first. >> My problem here was, and kinda still is, that i thought {nu'e} would >> only touch the following {la mlatu} and not the preceding {do}. >> But i guess {do}'s definition "identified by vocative" means exactly >> this... >> >> cmavo are pretty much virgin soil for me.. >> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Michael Turniansky >> wrote: >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Paul Predkiewicz >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Jacob Errington >> >> wrote: >> >> > .i iu mi no'u la cipni ze'e prami do nu'e la mlatu >> >> > >> >> > melrai :P >> >> > >> >> > mu'o mi'e la tsani >> >> >> >> That is indeed very cute :3 >> >> i like the nu'e, but wouldnt la mlatu slip into the x3 of prami? Of >> >> course if it had an x3, which it doesn't.. >> >> >> > No. Most people forget that "ne'u" is a COI, so it grabs the "la >> > mlatu" >> > --gejyspa >> > >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.