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You know, seeing how cute this thing is, and the T-shirt that the girl 
made for her dad, there is a certain charm to the Lojbanic world that I 
don't want to disappear. I guess it's just a normal part of 
minorities... Will we lose this when Lojban gets much bigger? Will Coca 
Cola start sponsoring additional rafsi? Today's bridi-tail was brought 
to you by Kentucky Fried Chicken?

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

Am 10.07.2012 16:16, schrieb Paul Predkiewicz:
> Yay, my sister just wrote that she will try if {la cipni cu ze'e prami
> la mlatu} and {la cipni cu ze'e prami la mlatu} fit into the rings.
> The longer version wouldn't fit for sure.
> But considering it to be engraved into wedding rings, i'm pretty happy
> with these sentences now
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Paul Predkiewicz
> <paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hm i guess i messed up what i meant, i meant {nu'e} grabs {la mlatu}
>> and {do} grabs {nu'e}
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Michael Turniansky
>> <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> No, no, it DOES only "touch" the "la mlatu"
>>>
>>> .i iu mi no'u la cipni ze'e prami do nu'e la mlatu ->
>>> [love] I, who is Bird, forever loves you, I promise Cat
>>>   iu     <love>
>>> mi      I (x1 of prami)
>>>       no'u la cipni [ge'u]       who is Bird
>>> [cu] ze'e    forever
>>> prami    loving
>>> do    you (x2 of prami)
>>>      nu'e   I-promise
>>>      la mlatu   Cat (x2 of nu'e)
>>>
>>>    The nu'e la mlatu together are free-floating, not tied to anything, much
>>> like .iu
>>>                    --gejyspa
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Paul Predkiewicz
>>> <paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Ok i just read a bit about all the selma'o, didn't really know about
>>>> it much. i never really got into exploring cmavo, instead tried to
>>>> learn a bunch of gismu first.
>>>> My problem here was, and kinda still is, that i thought {nu'e} would
>>>> only touch the following {la mlatu} and not the preceding {do}.
>>>> But i guess {do}'s definition "identified by vocative" means exactly
>>>> this...
>>>>
>>>> cmavo are pretty much virgin soil for me..
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Michael Turniansky
>>>> <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Paul Predkiewicz
>>>>> <paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> .i iu mi no'u la cipni ze'e prami do nu'e la mlatu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> melrai :P
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mu'o mi'e la tsani
>>>>>> That is indeed very cute :3
>>>>>> i like the nu'e, but wouldnt la mlatu slip into the x3 of prami? Of
>>>>>> course if it had an x3, which it doesn't..
>>>>>>
>>>>>    No.  Most people forget that "ne'u" is a COI, so it grabs the "la
>>>>> mlatu"
>>>>>                   --gejyspa
>>>>>
>>>
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.i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla
.i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata

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