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Please... These sentences are cute, but you should really take out the
{cu}. It's unnecessary, as the {ze'e} elides it.
By the way, (not sure if you're aware of this) {ze'e} has the
additional implication of stretching over *all* of time. As in, *a
LOT* of time. So much time, even, that it includes time before you
were born, before your parents were born, and even before the earth
had formed. {ze'e} is pretty much like from the beginning of time,
until the end of time. Now, that's *really* cute because it implies
you were in love before even having met each other in this life,
implying that you be soulmates. Now, seeing as you're saving space by
taking of {cu} how about tacking a {iu} onto the name of the beloved?
{iu} and {ui} are such pretty words in my opinion.

mu'o mi'e la tsani

On 10 July 2012 10:16, Paul Predkiewicz <paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yay, my sister just wrote that she will try if {la cipni cu ze'e prami
> la mlatu} and {la cipni cu ze'e prami la mlatu} fit into the rings.
> The longer version wouldn't fit for sure.
> But considering it to be engraved into wedding rings, i'm pretty happy
> with these sentences now
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Paul Predkiewicz
> <paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> hm i guess i messed up what i meant, i meant {nu'e} grabs {la mlatu}
>> and {do} grabs {nu'e}
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Michael Turniansky
>> <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> No, no, it DOES only "touch" the "la mlatu"
>>>
>>> .i iu mi no'u la cipni ze'e prami do nu'e la mlatu ->
>>> [love] I, who is Bird, forever loves you, I promise Cat
>>>  iu     <love>
>>> mi      I (x1 of prami)
>>>      no'u la cipni [ge'u]       who is Bird
>>> [cu] ze'e    forever
>>> prami    loving
>>> do    you (x2 of prami)
>>>     nu'e   I-promise
>>>     la mlatu   Cat (x2 of nu'e)
>>>
>>>   The nu'e la mlatu together are free-floating, not tied to anything, much
>>> like .iu
>>>                   --gejyspa
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Paul Predkiewicz
>>> <paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok i just read a bit about all the selma'o, didn't really know about
>>>> it much. i never really got into exploring cmavo, instead tried to
>>>> learn a bunch of gismu first.
>>>> My problem here was, and kinda still is, that i thought {nu'e} would
>>>> only touch the following {la mlatu} and not the preceding {do}.
>>>> But i guess {do}'s definition "identified by vocative" means exactly
>>>> this...
>>>>
>>>> cmavo are pretty much virgin soil for me..
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Michael Turniansky
>>>> <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Paul Predkiewicz
>>>> > <paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> > .i iu mi no'u la cipni ze'e prami do nu'e la mlatu
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > melrai :P
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > mu'o mi'e la tsani
>>>> >>
>>>> >> That is indeed very cute :3
>>>> >> i like the nu'e, but wouldnt la mlatu slip into the x3 of prami? Of
>>>> >> course if it had an x3, which it doesn't..
>>>> >>
>>>> >   No.  Most people forget that "ne'u" is a COI, so it grabs the "la
>>>> > mlatu"
>>>> >                  --gejyspa
>>>> >
>>>>
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