Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:50193) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SpIZ2-0006bD-OR; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 05:32:13 -0700 Received: by vbzb23 with SMTP id b23sf2489887vbz.16 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 05:32:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YQltgYUKwVsQAVATef2gf5XmAaozKCaGlZHdIcbUf8w=; b=nDPdxqueHauAHas7pB4Fe8MsL7Fc1EzD0RjjlQwkGNdFX1OjRVoeW/DHGd60bSe9m+ 159tRZ4JAAZLFPx5cITbr6fNWwp8KtfJ8VMy2yjCT4YkQM32zLguJhGV4XdIecO1FujQ YJRbhWRaA9Z+WRmOpaq9btass6Kcgln9f8CRs= Received: by 10.236.191.197 with SMTP id g45mr158279yhn.7.1342096325922; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 05:32:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.141.11 with SMTP id f11ls3084729yhj.9.gmail; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 05:32:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.77.138 with SMTP id d10mr160909yhe.14.1342096325059; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 05:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by f14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 05:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 05:32:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Ubuntu/11.04 Chromium/18.0.1025.151 Chrome/18.0.1025.151 Safari/535.19,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <292c7410-6a2c-488e-92da-2eaca1641aca@f14g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Conlang test sentence failure. From: ianek To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of janek37@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=janek37@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1098 If we accept that {je} is good here, then {lo ke clarai je toryrai ke'e be lo ro nanmu} works. Personally I don't, so I'd prefer {joi} here. mu'o mi'e ianek On 12 Lip, 13:11, gleki wrote: > *From *http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Conlang+Test+Sentences > *The tallest and smallest men in the world both joined the circus.* > > =A0 =A0- lo clarai e lo toryrai be lo ro nanmu pe le munje cu cmibi'o le = tigbe'e > =A0 =A0- *It's not exactly right, because {be lo ro...} applies only to > =A0 =A0{toryrai}. Maybe:* > =A0 =A0- lo clarai je toryrai be lo ro nanmu pe le munje cu cmibi'o le ti= gbe'e > > The second solution fails as well. How to say "(*The tallest and smallest= ) > men in the world*"? --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.