Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:41727) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Splv6-0000pf-Ll; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:53:00 -0700 Received: by vbzb23 with SMTP id b23sf4155978vbz.16 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:52:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=gv9XfeJT3cQm19gnoit682KIRQfqdoaZ0+JMIqKZp3g=; b=eSIOrWkwuuucEB+vNRa7cJ15TwwBLEb8fS11pH41ZHf3cF2hq+VS0TyYPFpmPDluUc TQVlZfdkk7/oevlGnzEcz8s7bI/1VL26xG2GldDHlJQXnDhOe1tgSnBBemrIEFe+MUXS Oxs4tJcBWA/0m5aRYxME2dxJGgJaGgykziMpQ= Received: by 10.52.94.147 with SMTP id dc19mr303080vdb.17.1342209169991; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:52:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.75.106 with SMTP id b10ls2052791vdw.4.gmail; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.68.141 with SMTP id w13mr298150vdt.18.1342209168637; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by q29g2000vby.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:52:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Ubuntu/11.04 Chromium/18.0.1025.151 Chrome/18.0.1025.151 Safari/535.19,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: zoi gy. Plato is a friend, but the truth is a greater friend. gy. se fanva fu ma From: ianek To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of janek37@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=janek37@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1676 This doesn't say that I love Plato at all, because I can love truth more than something which I don't love. And I would use {la platon} since it was his Greek name (Plato is Latin). So I'd rather say {mi broda la platon i ku'i mi zmadu broda lo ka jetnu} [{lo jetnu} is a true fact (du'u)] mu'o mi'e ianek On 13 Lip, 18:34, Jacob Errington wrote: > On 13 July 2012 12:30, gleki wrote: > > > or to be more specific how would you solve the problem in this ad hoc > > sentence > > "I love Plato but i love jetnu more". > > {.i la plat se zmadu lo jetnu lo ni mi [whatever selbri is actually > appropriate: pendo, xendo, prami, something] ce'u} > or, with (slightly) less contrived syntax: {.i mi [that selbri] jai te > zmadu la plat lo jetnu} > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Lojban Beginners" group. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/LOMiZswZz54J. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.