Received: from mail-ee0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]:46458) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SqXLw-0003r1-Jw; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:31:54 -0700 Received: by eeit10 with SMTP id t10sf2036895eei.16 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:31:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=GPECA7zgV1pIENA188PAVWV7ztTy4Tl3imvNJKBN9BY=; b=NdMuWO4znQNPteOhplVYPZGLXCtzonv/fk7lpJnZBCUIuxG04fXk/RkIgCh9Eo/SKM iuDfar1KVLQo2RSsa1L/sHgB+bNgfGmrW16cf4EvOukLRFJDRDzGyvbnA+DMzRuHS/r6 y14yWmFvH1rbfdG5rEOc1HFTWlzLFhWaInwjY= Received: by 10.204.13.69 with SMTP id b5mr328419bka.9.1342391500636; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:31:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.146.82 with SMTP id g18ls4250093bkv.3.gmail; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.130.14 with SMTP id hk14mr1422592bkc.5.1342391499908; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.130.14 with SMTP id hk14mr1422591bkc.5.1342391499896; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si3759847bks.2.2012.07.15.15.31.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.169; Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id n8so7987138lbj.0 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:31:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.48.39 with SMTP id i7mr4434678lbn.31.1342391499717; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.28.134 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:31:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8226125c-b6b5-4f96-862a-28c390d5d8bf@googlegroups.com> <9d0634fb-2be2-474b-8009-ca1f19d58861@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:31:39 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Translating "how" + infinitive From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 726 On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:25 PM, .arpis. wrote: > Since {certu} has an x3 "by standard" place, it arguably fits better than > {kakne}, which is an innate capacity. Even someone who doesn't know how to > swim has the innate capacity to do so (arguably). "kakne" isn't defined as innate. That would be "se jinzi". mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.