Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:43783) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Sqr74-0004t9-Ud; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:37:51 -0700 Received: by weyu3 with SMTP id u3sf3056535wey.16 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:37:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Yjt/EUZO0ZB+ZQYOIz1WrE66aBMwEqDxIt7W/wIBvOg=; b=4IJtPcjvg/zCnGWGekfu8SKwmvk57jC74d++XY4vRovppESDol92hOpQj1eLRr3hrT Qvr24vcUMspw9FnyWvv1yOCgnGl7+b34wcf8DZRSgjCASEOBydKxseMtw6b5NxO1zhet h9tsjjoYmOYQsBFi85r4Wv8VBzexO5n616FBo= Received: by 10.204.152.197 with SMTP id h5mr461559bkw.21.1342467458322; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:37:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.143.140 with SMTP id v12ls5126653bku.6.gmail; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.126.4 with SMTP id gu4mr2217115bkc.8.1342467454745; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.126.4 with SMTP id gu4mr2217114bkc.8.1342467454717; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bk0-f47.google.com (mail-bk0-f47.google.com [209.85.214.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si4481266bks.2.2012.07.16.12.37.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.47; Received: by bkcik5 with SMTP id ik5so4688885bkc.20 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.146.169 with SMTP id td9mr12557479lab.42.1342467454471; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.46.36 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9b33de6f-0c48-4e4e-b113-bde8bd2ce9f8@n5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> References: <9b33de6f-0c48-4e4e-b113-bde8bd2ce9f8@n5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:37:34 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: I like washing the dishes. From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f234589bf0be904c4f78f6e X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 6746 --e89a8f234589bf0be904c4f78f6e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It means "no thanks", afaiaa. On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 1:08 PM, ianek wrote: > {ki'enai} sounds more like "thanks for nothing" to me. > > mu'o mi'e ianek > > On 16 Lip, 20:55, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM, tanbla wrote: > > > coi rodo > > > > > I made a previous post about how to say "I hate washing the dishes" > which > > > is {mi xebni lonu lumci lo palta}. However, if I wanted to say "I like > > > washing the dishes" I can't just say {mi nelci lonu lumci lo palta} > because > > > {nelci} takes a state/object for x2, right? If so, then how do I say "I > > > like washing the dishes"? > > > > You can. It has the same place structure as xebni. (Why one says > > "object/abstraction" and the other says "object/state" is beyond me, > > though.) > > > > > One other thing, how do I say "no, thank you"? Can I just say > {na'igo'i .i > > > ki'e}? > > > > I would say {ki'enai}. > > > > > ki'e > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "Lojban Beginners" group. > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/ukjk18gJknEJ. > > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > > > -- > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 1:08 PM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
{ki'enai} sounds more like "thanks for nothing" to me.

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 16 Lip, 20:55, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM, tanbla <azurit...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > coi rodo
>
> > I made a previous post about how to say "I hate washing the dishes" which
> > is {mi xebni lonu lumci lo palta}. However, if I wanted to say "I like
> > washing the dishes" I can't just say {mi nelci lonu lumci lo palta} because
> > {nelci} takes a state/object for x2, right? If so, then how do I say "I
> > like washing the dishes"?
>
> You can. It has the same place structure as xebni. (Why one says
> "object/abstraction" and the other says "object/state" is beyond me,
> though.)
>
> > One other thing, how do I say "no, thank you"? Can I just say {na'igo'i .i
> > ki'e}?
>
> I would say {ki'enai}.
>
> > ki'e
>
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> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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