Received: from mail-gg0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:48389) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SsgOy-0004cq-SU; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:35:57 -0700 Received: by ggke5 with SMTP id e5sf5812939ggk.16 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:35:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-pair-authenticated:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=shgQFUjzBx+HDC0gIpc4ftkXCAVNeIpgoztTWjsaUdM=; b=QIi8IvUYizkiU1rSfDrsTLUeMW023lNlvVcGiY36q5tKKvr7iXgzm5808DTyf/OVPn 7WJH7OFtRsJJE0A+xR1Lcb0+7aVKuUwaBrHvacsMUgJiU56L+dqBlKDVA4cka3KhJwh9 y8u2Gfo5xRbqNn07n64gr79hTMN5dffWOhg3k= Received: by 10.50.242.7 with SMTP id wm7mr2609858igc.3.1342902942276; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:35:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.4.98 with SMTP id 34ls5727269ibq.9.gmail; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.36.169 with SMTP id r9mr9122413igj.4.1342902941152; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.36.169 with SMTP id r9mr9122412igj.4.1342902941143; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com. [209.68.5.16]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id j4si783508igq.2.2012.07.21.13.35.40; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.16 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) client-ip=209.68.5.16; Received: (qmail 84202 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2012 20:35:40 -0000 Received: from 87.160.144.199 (HELO ?192.168.1.33?) (87.160.144.199) by relay02.pair.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 2012 20:35:40 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 87.160.144.199 Message-ID: <500B129A.6050000@plasmatix.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 22:35:38 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] ko klama ma References: In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: m3o@plasmatix.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.16 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) smtp.mail=m3o@plasmatix.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1364 Am 21.07.2012 22:02, schrieb tanbla: > coi > I was wondering how multiple questions/commands work in a sentence. > For example, what does {ko klama ma} mean? {xu ko klama}? {xu ko klama > ma}? I interpret a question containing both {xu} and {ma} as being two questions. (1a) is roughly equal to (1b): (1a) .i xu do viska ma (1b) .i xu do viska da .i je do viska ma "Do you see something, and what is it?". {ko klama ma} is a bit unusual, but you could understand it as "Where do I want you to go?". Again, (2a) and (2b) are roughly equivalent: (2a) ko klama ma (2b) mi minde do lo nu do klama ma "I command you to go where?" Thus, {xu ko klama ma} would become: (3) .i xu mi minde do da .i je mi minde do lo nu do klama ma "Do I command you to do something, and where do I command you to go?" mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- .i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u .i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla .i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.