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On 21 Lip, 22:35, selpa'i <m...@plasmatix.com> wrote:
> Am 21.07.2012 22:02, schrieb tanbla:
>
> > coi
> > I was wondering how multiple questions/commands work in a sentence.
> > For example, what does {ko klama ma} mean? {xu ko klama}? {xu ko klama
> > ma}?
>
> I interpret a question containing both {xu} and {ma} as being two
> questions. (1a) is roughly equal to (1b):
>
> (1a) .i xu do viska ma
>
> (1b) .i xu do viska da .i je do viska ma
> "Do you see something, and what is it?".
>
> {ko klama ma} is a bit unusual, but you could understand it as "Where do
> I want you to go?". Again, (2a) and (2b) are roughly equivalent:

I see it otherwise. A sentence with {ko} is always a command, not a
question about a command. So for me this is something like {ko klama i
do klama ma}, ie. 'Go! Where will you go?'.

>
> (2a) ko klama ma
>
> (2b) mi minde do lo nu do klama ma
> =A0 =A0 =A0 "I command you to go where?"
>
> Thus, {xu ko klama ma} would become:
> (3) .i xu mi minde do da .i je mi minde do lo nu do klama ma
> =A0 =A0 =A0"Do I command you to do something, and where do I command you =
to go?"

Again, {xu} is a question about {klama}, not about "command"/{minde}.
I think this sentence is somewhat strained, but for me it would mean
"Go! Will you go and where?"

mu'o mi'e ianek

>
> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
>
> --
> .i pau mi me ma .i pa mai ko mi jungau la'e di'u
> .i ba bo mi va'o lo nu nelci lo nu me ma kau cu barkla
> .i va'o lo nu na nelci cu denpa ti lo nu mi drata

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