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Isn't that exactly what {fu'ivla} are for?

Isn't there even an example talking about using {fu'ivla} to coin words for
"rock" (as in music) and "rock n roll"? (L4B, I tink)

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:43 AM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Lindar <lindarthebard@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What about older terms like "fresh" or "funky"? :) My dad came up with
>>> those because he doesn't really see how a language could work without slang.
>>>
>>
>> {zanru} and {selmanci} or {zgiselmanci} specifically for music.
>>
>> There are plenty of weird words that we have that don't map to English if
>> you're looking for something like that. Like {ckavre} means like...
>> reclining in bed. The problem with Lojban is that you can't really just
>> assign an arbitrary new meaning to a word or add implication to a word.
>> That's not part of the language. We have weird words that don't map to
>> English perfectly and we have some silly addages/phrases/words like {.i
>> ko'a muvdu .ije le drata ku klama fu zi'o}, which is like "Six of one,
>> half-a-dozen of the other.", but doesn't actually say that.
>>
>> So... no, we don't have words for "rock n' roll" or "funky" or
>> "bitchin'", but neither does Japanese or Chinese or Arabic. >_>
>>
>
> All these languages have ways of saying "rock 'n roll", although Japanese
> borrowed it from English. "Funky" and "bitchin'" are indeed slang, and I
> wonder what a non-slang 'translation' into English would be for them.
>
> stevo
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Isn&#39;t that exactly what {fu&#39;ivla} are for?<br><br>Isn&#39;t there e=
ven an example talking about using {fu&#39;ivla} to coin words for &quot;ro=
ck&quot; (as in music) and &quot;rock n roll&quot;? (L4B, I tink)<br><br>

<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:43 AM, MorphemeAddict =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lytlesw@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">lytlesw@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>

<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at=
 3:57 AM, Lindar <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lindarthebard@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">lindarthebard@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">What about older terms like &q=
uot;fresh&quot; or &quot;funky&quot;? :) My dad came up with those because =
he doesn&#39;t really see how a language could work without slang.<br>



</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>{zanru} and {selmanci} or {zgiselman=
ci} specifically for music.</div><div><br></div><div>There are plenty of we=
ird words that we have that don&#39;t map to English if you&#39;re looking =
for something like that. Like {ckavre} means like... reclining in bed. The =
problem with Lojban is that you can&#39;t really just assign an arbitrary n=
ew meaning to a word or add implication to a word. That&#39;s not part of t=
he language. We have weird words that don&#39;t map to English perfectly an=
d we have some silly addages/phrases/words like {.i ko&#39;a muvdu .ije le =
drata ku klama fu zi&#39;o}, which is like &quot;Six of one, half-a-dozen o=
f the other.&quot;, but doesn&#39;t actually say that.</div>



<div><br></div><div>So... no, we don&#39;t have words for &quot;rock n&#39;=
 roll&quot; or &quot;funky&quot; or &quot;bitchin&#39;&quot;, but neither d=
oes Japanese or Chinese or Arabic. &gt;_&gt;</div></blockquote><div><br>



</div></div><div>All these languages have ways of saying &quot;rock &#39;n =
roll&quot;, although Japanese borrowed it from English. &quot;Funky&quot; a=
nd &quot;bitchin&#39;&quot; are indeed slang, and I wonder what a non-slang=
 &#39;translation&#39; into English would be for them.=A0</div>



<div><br></div><div>stevo=A0</div><div class=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div>

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