On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at= 6:28 PM, cariar.jermanis <primitive_tetrapod@yahoo.com>= wrote:

Coi ro do,

I am just lear= ning Lojban. For my first post, I am going to list some lujvo (compound wor= ds, from my understanding) that I have made to express certain English word= s in Lojban. Here is what I have contrived so far:

Animals:
pangolin - ?*mantyctimabru (? +=A0mantyctimabru;=A0scaly=A0an= teater) *Here I am trying to figure out what Lojbanic word= would mean "scale" in the sense of an integumentary flake, as on= a reptile, a fish, or on the wings of a butterfly or moth.

=A0 I don't believe we've ever created= a satisfactory one. =A0Perhaps kardyskapi?

tadpole = - cifpipybanfi (cif, rafsi of cifnu + pipybanfi; baby frog), on the model o= f "ciftoldi" (caterpillar).=A0

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=A0 The cnanonical form would actually be=A0cifpi= 'ebanfi

froglet - naru'epipybanfi = (naru'= e + pipybanfi; almost-frog)

=A0 Tha= t's not a lujvo,and breaks up into na ru'e pipybanfi. =A0May I sugg= est jbipi'ebanfi?

newly-metamorphosed frog* - ci'opipybanfi (ci'o= , rafsi of citno + pipybanfi; young frog) *What I like to call a "baby frog."

=A0 This is also not a lujvo= , and would break apart into ci'o pipybanfi. =A0What you want is=A0&quo= t;citpi'ebanfi"

e= xtinction (in the sense of hunting to or intentionally causing extinction) = - mulcatra (mul, rafsi of mulno + catra; complete kill)
extinction (in the sense of dying out na= turally or indirectly caused by human activity) - mulnunmro (mul, rafsi of = mulno=A0=A0+ nunmro)
= Note that I have consulted the jbovlaste for the words (and Wiktionary for = "mantyctimabru"). I have probably made some mistakes here -= please let me know what you all think!

Tu'u,

cariar.jermanis.

PS: When is the schwa (y= ) added between gismu and their respective rafsi, as seen in "pipybanf= i"=A0and "mantyctimabru?" For pipybanfi, the rafsi "pip= " of the gismu "plipe" does not have a final vowel, so I wil= l suppose that the schwa is added as a helping vowel. The gismu "manti= ," which, according to the jbovlaste, does not appear to have any rafs= i, has a final vowel, and the word "anteater" in Lojban could be = spelled as mantictimabru, but the final "i" of manti is made into= a schwa. Why is this?

=A0 See the reference grammar, chapter 4, = sections 5 and 6 for the long answer, but the short answer is the "y&q= uot; must be added between two consonants that cannot go together (for exam= ple, voiced with unvoiced, two of the same consonant, or any of j/z/s/c wit= h each other). =A0In addition it must be added to the end of four letter ra= fsi (which are just the full gismu with the final fvowel dropped off), whic= h can never appear at the end.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa

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