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On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:49 PM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:

> Definition of {du'u}:
> x1 is predication [bridi] expressed in sentence x2
>
> So {se} works not directly on {du'u}, but on {du'u broda}, wich means
> 'x1 is a fact of broda expressed in sentence x2'. Then {lo du'u broda}
> means 'a fact of broda' and {lo se du'u} means 'a sentence expressing
> a fact of broda'.
>

No. [se} works directly on {du'u}.
sedu'u<http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/sedu%27u>

mu'o mi'e ianek
>
> On 7 Sie, 06:02, Pierre Abbat <p...@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> > On Monday 06 August 2012 23:51:58 Luke Bergen wrote:
> >
> > >  Is that true?  If it were "lo du'u mi prami do" it would be true for
> sure.
> > >  But isn't "sedu'u" the text which expresses the bridi x1?
> >
> > > sedu'u has always kind of confused me.  It's not a bridi, it's a "text
> > > expressing [bridi] which is x2", but not the kind of "text" that you
> get
> > > with lu li'u?
> >
> > "do cusku lo sedu'u mi prami do" is equivalent to "do cusku lu do prami
> mi
> > li'u" (except that in the first case it could have been said in Greek or
> > Ithkuil or anything else).
> >
> > Pierre
> >
> > --
> > Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:49 PM, ianek <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:janek37@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>janek37@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Definition of {du&#39;u}:<br>
x1 is predication [bridi] expressed in sentence x2<br>
<br>
So {se} works not directly on {du&#39;u}, but on {du&#39;u broda}, wich mea=
ns<br>
&#39;x1 is a fact of broda expressed in sentence x2&#39;. Then {lo du&#39;u=
 broda}<br>
means &#39;a fact of broda&#39; and {lo se du&#39;u} means &#39;a sentence =
expressing<br>
a fact of broda&#39;.<br></blockquote><div><br>No. [se} works directly on {=
du&#39;u}. <a href=3D"http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/sedu%27u">sedu&#3=
9;u</a> <br><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


mu&#39;o mi&#39;e ianek<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On 7 Sie, 06:02, Pierre Abbat &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:p...@phma.optus.nu">p..=
.@phma.optus.nu</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; On Monday 06 August 2012 23:51:58 Luke Bergen wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; =A0Is that true? =A0If it were &quot;lo du&#39;u mi prami do&quot=
; it would be true for sure.<br>
&gt; &gt; =A0But isn&#39;t &quot;sedu&#39;u&quot; the text which expresses =
the bridi x1?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; sedu&#39;u has always kind of confused me. =A0It&#39;s not a brid=
i, it&#39;s a &quot;text<br>
&gt; &gt; expressing [bridi] which is x2&quot;, but not the kind of &quot;t=
ext&quot; that you get<br>
&gt; &gt; with lu li&#39;u?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &quot;do cusku lo sedu&#39;u mi prami do&quot; is equivalent to &quot;=
do cusku lu do prami mi<br>
&gt; li&#39;u&quot; (except that in the first case it could have been said =
in Greek or<br>
&gt; Ithkuil or anything else).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Pierre<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.<br=
>
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