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"cmavo clusters" in jbovlaste are somewhat messy, from what I've seen.
http://camxes.lojban.org/camxes/?text=3Dse+du%27u+broda

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 7 Sie, 08:02, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 11:49 PM, ianek <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Definition of {du'u}:
> > x1 is predication [bridi] expressed in sentence x2
>
> > So {se} works not directly on {du'u}, but on {du'u broda}, wich means
> > 'x1 is a fact of broda expressed in sentence x2'. Then {lo du'u broda}
> > means 'a fact of broda' and {lo se du'u} means 'a sentence expressing
> > a fact of broda'.
>
> No. [se} works directly on {du'u}.
> sedu'u<http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/sedu%27u>
>
> mu'o mi'e ianek
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> > On 7 Sie, 06:02, Pierre Abbat <p...@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> > > On Monday 06 August 2012 23:51:58 Luke Bergen wrote:
>
> > > > =A0Is that true? =A0If it were "lo du'u mi prami do" it would be tr=
ue for
> > sure.
> > > > =A0But isn't "sedu'u" the text which expresses the bridi x1?
>
> > > > sedu'u has always kind of confused me. =A0It's not a bridi, it's a =
"text
> > > > expressing [bridi] which is x2", but not the kind of "text" that yo=
u
> > get
> > > > with lu li'u?
>
> > > "do cusku lo sedu'u mi prami do" is equivalent to "do cusku lu do pra=
mi
> > mi
> > > li'u" (except that in the first case it could have been said in Greek=
 or
> > > Ithkuil or anything else).
>
> > > Pierre
>
> > > --
> > > Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.
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> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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