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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Place structure of lujvo
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In case of lujvo, one refers to the place structure of the tanru
components using their first letter. So for {tamgau}
    g1 defines t2 into form t1.

g1 is the x1 of {gasnu}, t2 the x2 of {tarmi} and t1 the x1 of
{tarmi}. It should be:

  x1=g1 defines x2=t2 into form x3=t1

to make the relation explicit.

I personally think that some of lujvo should be redefined in jbovlaste
to follow the more usual convention of x1, x2 etc.

That said, since the lujvo ending with {gasnu} are very common. I
would object that a more appropriate definition for {tamgau} should
be:

    x1 define x2=t1 the be the form of x3=t2

I do respect the freedom of a lujvo maker but I don't see the benefit
of swapping t1 and t2, especially when using gasnu. I would much
rather stick to:

  ko'a rodgau ko'e ko'i ko'o ko'u  =>  ko'a gasnu lo nu ko'e broda
ko'i ko'o ko'u

remod






On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:43 PM, mashers <mail@mashley.net> wrote:
> coi rodo
>
> I'm trying to understand the place structure of lujvo in the jbovlaste. For
> example, the definition of tamgau is listed as "g1 defines t2 into form t1".
> To what do g1, t2 and t1 refer? This does not fit the sumti descriptors I am
> used to seeing (x1 selbri x2 [...] [xn]).
>
> ki'e
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