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I have another question. I know that when you say a Lojban vowel, yo= u add "bu" after it, but what do you say after a consonant? Sent from my iPod On Nov 21, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Michael Turniansky <mtu= rniansky@gmail.com> wrote: No, not periods in the middle of words. You've seen commas ("slaka bu" in l= ojban), which are syllable breaks to, for example, di-dipthongize vowel clu= sters that appear in a name. For example, lo,is is "LOH-is" as opposed to "= lois" which rhymes with the Englice "choice" --gejyspa On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Annie <park.ann= ie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote: All that makes since, the full stop separating one word from a word that be= gins a vowel and all. However, I've seen it in the middle of words before. = What's that for? Sent from my iPod On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Ross Ogilvie <ross@ros= sogilvie.id.au> wrote: A full stop in lojban represents a pause in speech. You need to pause in sp= eech to show that the next word begins with a vowel, or that you have finis= hed saying a name. English uses a full stop to separate sentences. The way to separate sentenc= es in lojban is to use the word "i". Because it's a word beginning with a v= owel, it is normally written with a full stop before it. eg ti mlatu .i ta gerku This is a cat. That is a dog But it is the word "i", not the full stop that is separating the sentences. The word in lojban for the full stop is "denpabu", ie "the pause letter" -- Ross On 21 November 2012 11:09, Annie <park.annie@asb= .gaggle.net> wrote: It seems like there's a lot of periods, fullstops in Lojban. Why would you = want to put them either at the beginning or in the middle of a word? Sent from my iPod *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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Oh OK. I have another question. I = know that when you say a Lojban vowel, you add "bu" after it, but what do y= ou say after a consonant?

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 21,= 2012, at 1:20 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

  No, not periods in the middle of wor= ds.  You've seen commas ("slaka bu" in lojban), which are syllable bre= aks to, for example, di-dipthongize vowel clusters that appear in a name. &= nbsp;For example, lo,is is "LOH-is" as opposed to "lois" which rhymes with = the Englice "choice"
     --gejyspa


= On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net<= /a>> wrote:
All that makes since,= the full stop separating one word from a word that begins a vowel and all.= However, I've seen it in the middle of words before. What's that for?

Sent from my iPod
A full stop in lojban represents a pause in speech. You need to pause = in speech to show that the next word begins with a vowel, or that you have = finished saying a name.

English uses a full stop to separate sentenc= es. The way to separate sentences in lojban is to use the word "i". Because= it's a word beginning with a vowel, it is normally written with a full sto= p before it. eg

ti mlatu .i ta gerku
This is a cat. That is a dog

But it is t= he word "i", not the full stop that is separating the sentences.

The= word in lojban for the full stop is "denpabu", ie "the pause letter"

-- Ross

On 21 November 2012 11:09, An= nie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:
It seems like there's a lot of periods, fullstops in Lojban. Why would you = want to put them either at the beginning or in the middle of a word?

Sent from my iPod

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