Received: from mail-ie0-f189.google.com ([209.85.223.189]:54807) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TbGAj-0000t2-B8; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:41:30 -0800 Received: by mail-ie0-f189.google.com with SMTP id e11sf762612iej.16 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:41:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=DMhrIAaBAPuIToWxM9POt2PxQxcInc/GrNk/v129xSc=; b=TuhdNqabMFVw5zNJC41wPuX2A2y4FlxP8kAApvvrMbnUEkpw6JxQTqhstQkq9T6Pml CLPGu12/Fcx6tprWWrAHMugsiVYXTOe5sZGehsy3SAXPM2HbUhW9i4fdMIoyx0tqPXkt dSPNbUqEDVkWu0foKJrGjs3jSAwlb27HDjvoPl70jaGM9qN8e4N8utorCggIfmuES825 mUTnelzr5VBXKJZjhk4yZC8vVP70DFAiC7KcEcv1I6dEJyPIaIdob77BVX7TLv+ea8OI jUBXEzTd5ecCFYpJbGQY7f63GY2d4xjFTFR6opWx1+G7bsE+dsx45CZeehLzWv02GGVE 4DSA== Received: by 10.50.91.230 with SMTP id ch6mr331798igb.9.1353526874826; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:41:14 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.17.201 with SMTP id q9ls5579441igd.26.canary; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.74.200 with SMTP id x8mr14248341icj.32.1353526873990; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:41:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.74.200 with SMTP id x8mr14248340icj.32.1353526873964; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:41:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-f176.google.com (mail-ob0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s15si55244igi.1.2012.11.21.11.41.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:41:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id un3so9737907obb.21 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:41:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.8.68 with SMTP id p4mr17002596oea.7.1353526873515; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:41:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.94.71 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Nov 2012 11:41:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1728F15D-0AB2-4A1D-BAE1-A5538B6E1D3D@asb.gaggle.net> References: <41C793FE-DF9E-4814-82D9-353E740E390D@asb.gaggle.net> <0008395A-7118-4574-819E-2C5EDB2ED45F@asb.gaggle.net> <1728F15D-0AB2-4A1D-BAE1-A5538B6E1D3D@asb.gaggle.net> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:41:13 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Fullstop From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1c6ea7d664804cf068817 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 12744 --e89a8ff1c6ea7d664804cf068817 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Annie wrote: > Oh OK. I have another question. I know that when you say a Lojban vowel, > you add "bu" after it, but what do you say after a consonant? > Lojban consonants are the letteral followed by "y.": by. cy. dy. fy. etc. > Sent from my iPod > > On Nov 21, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Michael Turniansky > wrote: > > No, not periods in the middle of words. You've seen commas ("slaka bu" > in lojban), which are syllable breaks to, for example, di-dipthongize vowel > clusters that appear in a name. For example, lo,is is "LOH-is" as opposed > to "lois" which rhymes with the Englice "choice" > --gejyspa > > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Annie wrote: > >> All that makes since, the full stop separating one word from a word that >> begins a vowel and all. However, I've seen it in the middle of words >> before. What's that for? >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Ross Ogilvie wrote: >> >> A full stop in lojban represents a pause in speech. You need to pause in >> speech to show that the next word begins with a vowel, or that you have >> finished saying a name. >> >> English uses a full stop to separate sentences. The way to separate >> sentences in lojban is to use the word "i". Because it's a word beginning >> with a vowel, it is normally written with a full stop before it. eg >> >> ti mlatu .i ta gerku >> This is a cat. That is a dog >> >> But it is the word "i", not the full stop that is separating the >> sentences. >> >> The word in lojban for the full stop is "denpabu", ie "the pause letter" >> >> -- Ross >> >> On 21 November 2012 11:09, Annie wrote: >> >>> It seems like there's a lot of periods, fullstops in Lojban. Why would >>> you want to put them either at the beginning or in the middle of a word? >>> >>> Sent from my iPod >>> >>> *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > > > > > > *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:
Oh OK. I have another question. I know that when you= say a Lojban vowel, you add "bu" after it, but what do you say a= fter a consonant?

Lojban consonants ar= e the letteral followed by "y.": by. cy. dy. fy. etc.
=A0
Sent from my= iPod

On Nov 21, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Mic= hael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

=A0 No, not perio= ds in the middle of words. =A0You've seen commas ("slaka bu" = in lojban), which are syllable breaks to, for example, di-dipthongize vowel= clusters that appear in a name. =A0For example, lo,is is "LOH-is"= ; as opposed to "lois" which rhymes with the Englice "choice= "
=A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa


On Wed, N= ov 21, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:
All that makes since,= the full stop separating one word from a word that begins a vowel and all.= However, I've seen it in the middle of words before. What's that f= or?

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:38 PM, = Ross Ogilvie <ross@rossogilvie.id.au> wrote:

A full stop in lojban represents a pause in speech. You need to pause = in speech to show that the next word begins with a vowel, or that you have = finished saying a name.

English uses a full stop to separate sentenc= es. The way to separate sentences in lojban is to use the word "i"= ;. Because it's a word beginning with a vowel, it is normally written w= ith a full stop before it. eg

ti mlatu .i ta gerku
This is a cat. That is a dog

But it is t= he word "i", not the full stop that is separating the sentences.<= br>
The word in lojban for the full stop is "denpabu", ie &quo= t;the pause letter"

-- Ross

On 21 November 2012 11:09, An= nie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:
It seems like there's a lot of periods, fullstops in Lojban. Why would = you want to put them either at the beginning or in the middle of a word?
Sent from my iPod

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