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On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:11 PM, mudri <jammyatjammy@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can I add something? I notice that {jibni} has been given a simplified
> translation that reads something like "similar, close in properties". For a
> while, I guessed at {simsa}, since it seems to fit that translation
> remarkably well (better, if I've not misunderstood). In fact, what is the
> difference between these two?


The full definitions are almost exactly the same, too, which is why my
simplied definition (the ones used in Memrise) are so close. The words are
almost exactly the same in meaning.

From the notes (in simsa), I'd say that two Golden Delicious apples can be
both simsa and jibni, a picture (or painting) is simsa (assuming it's of
something that exists in real life, like a landscape or still life), and a
length of string which is .01 cm shorter than another string is jibni.

On Tuesday, 14 August 2012 12:40:40 UTC+1, kamisori wrote:
>
>> Hello, i have quite alot trouble keeping those two apart.
>> I propose to change {zmadu}s definition to "x1 is more than or exceeds x2
>> in x3 by amount x4" hereby it would be easier to memorise its meaning,
>> because to me the similarity of "x1 exceeds or is more than x2 in x3 by
>> amount x4" to "x1 is an excess of x2 by standard x3" is hindering my
>> learning effort.
>>
>> What do you guys think?
>>
>> .u'i On the other hand, of course i could simply try to read the
>> definition more carefully, but due to the timers i always feel like i'm in
>> a hurry...
>>
>> mlatu
>>
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On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:11 PM, mudri <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:jammyatjammy@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jammyatjammy@gmail.com</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
">
Can I add something? I notice that {jibni} has been given a simplified tran=
slation that reads something like &quot;similar, close in properties&quot;.=
 For a while, I guessed at {simsa}, since it seems to fit that translation =
remarkably well (better, if I&#39;ve not misunderstood). In fact, what is t=
he difference between these two?</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>The full definitions are almost exactly the same, too, =
which is why my simplied definition (the ones used in Memrise) are so close=
. The words are almost exactly the same in meaning.</div><div><br></div>
<div>From the notes (in simsa), I&#39;d say that two Golden Delicious apple=
s can be both simsa and jibni, a picture (or painting) is simsa (assuming i=
t&#39;s of something that exists in real life, like a landscape or still li=
fe), and a length of string which is .01 cm shorter than another string is =
jibni.</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Tuesday,=
 14 August 2012 12:40:40 UTC+1, kamisori  wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
Hello, i have quite alot trouble keeping those two apart.<div>I propose to =
change {zmadu}s definition to &quot;x1 is more than or exceeds x2 in x3 by =
amount x4&quot; hereby it would be easier to memorise its meaning, because =
to me the similarity of &quot;x1 exceeds or is more than x2 in x3 by amount=
 x4&quot; to=A0&quot;x1 is an excess of x2 by standard x3&quot; is hinderin=
g my learning effort.</div>


<div><br></div><div>What do you guys think?</div><div><br></div><div>.u&#39=
;i On the other hand, of course i could simply try to read the definition m=
ore carefully, but due to the timers i always feel like i&#39;m in a hurry.=
..</div>


<div><br></div><div>mlatu</div>
</blockquote>

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