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On Friday, November 23, 2012 15:19:58 mudri wrote:
> Just to add something, 'h' is the upper case version of the apostrophe
> (both called {.y'y.}). This really only ever occurs in selma'o names,
> though it is very common in these.

As others have explained, 'h' is used in a computer language for formal 
grammars. The letter 'h' is called {y'ybu} in Lojban; the apostrophe is called 
{y'y}. If I were writing Lojban that contains apostrophes in all capitals, I'd 
leave the apostrophes alone: {NI'O LE BI'U CMALU BLOTI ZE'EPU NAKU XE KLAMA}.

Pierre
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