On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

How can quotes be letters, mimilarity symbols, and p= robably a bunch of other thingshis

They a= ren't. They're just quotes. The stuff inside the quotes is w= hat means those things.
=A0

Besides, do = you mean the word "left-brace", or the punctuation?

Neither.
=A0
Is "left-brace" Lojban because it doesn't look like = it. If it is, how do you pronounce it?

Braces are only for quoting Lojban in a n= on-Lojban text. They are not used in Lojban at all, and are not a part of L= ojban.

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<= br>On Nov 24, 2012, at 3:16 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry, I made a= mistake. Lojban long-a is {.ei}, not {.ai}. {.ai} is long-i.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeo= nus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:04 PM, mudri = <jammyatjammy@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm wondering whether I'm pronouncing Lojban's 'a' too = high, and I can't find a comparison of [=E6] and [a] anywhere. It was m= entioned somewhere else that Lojbanising the vowel of "hat" is di= fficult/obfuscating. However, I find it easy to interpret a Lojban 'a&#= 39; as a plain English 'a' (as in, recognising {la .kamryn.} is eas= y, but {la .nikylys.} isn't).

Note that my English vowels are from Yorkshire, meaning that= the 'a' sound is probably typical of northern England.

I assume =E6 is the sound of the &qu= ot;a" in hat, yes? I'm not sure what you mean by a Plain English &= #39;a'", since an English 'a' has at least three different= pronunciations even without accounting for accents, but these are some exa= mples of words that- for me at least- have the same sounding as:

'a':=A0hot, father, call, = dark, far, pall, Iran (la.iran., not "I ra= n")....
"=E6": pat, math, pal= , cap,=A0ran....

"A": mate, pail, ray, date....

In Lojban, the first and last are zo.a and lu .ai l= i'u, respectively. The best way to render =E6 in Lojban I can think of = is lu .ae li'u, but that's not a legal diphthong.

Finally, .ybu isn't usually an "a" in Eng= lish. It's pronounced exactly the same as "uh", and its sound= is usually found as "u" in English words: putt, shut, rudder....

It is of course possible that these example words aren&= #39;t pronounced the same by both of us, since I speak U.S.E. and you speak= B.C.E., but it's my hope they are.
=

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&= #39;o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

-- mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denp= a bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am = your father. :D )

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