On Sa= t, Nov 24, 2012 at 3:08 PM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:=

Unless I'm wrong, {lo mi kumfa} and {lo kumfa pe mi} have exactly the
same meaning.

They do. {lo mi kumfa} is literally = just shorthand for {lo kumfa pe mi}.

There are also other ways, but those listed by remod are the most
important.
And, you misspelled "sumti" as "su,ti". No need to confuse Annie more
than necessary (zo'o)
Capital V in {ko'V} and {fo'V} means any vowel of a, e, i, o, u
(there's a total of ten third person pro-sumti, not counting
letterals).

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 24 Lis, 22:36, Remo Dentato <rd= ent...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For possessive you have many option.
>
> 1. using {pe} to indicate an association: "my room (where I sleep)" -&= gt; { lo
> kumfa pe mi }
> 2. using {po} to indicate possession: "my room (that I own)" -> &nb= sp;{ lo kumfa
> po mi }
> 3. using one of the personal pro-sumti: "my room (in an unspecified se= nse"
> -> { lo mi kunfa }
> 4. using the dedicated su,ti place like in "my father" -> { lo patf= u be mi }
>
> The role of pronouns is played, in Lojban, by the pro-sumti. Not= e that
> they are not exactly the same! It's better not to try to translate Eng= lish
> concepts directly into Lojban. It's much better to understand how thin= gs
> work in Lojban and then try to use them to express what you want to sa= y.
>
> If you're just asking for personal pronouns the first and second= person is
> covered by:
>
> {mi} -> me (the speaker)
> {do} -> you (the listener)
> {ko} -> you (imperative)
> {do'o} -> you and others but not me
> {mi'o} -> you and me but not others
> {ma'a} -> me, you and others
> {mi'a} -> me and others but not you
>
> For third person one uses the assignable pro-sumti {ko'V} and {fo'V} o= r a
> the first letter of the sumti you want to refer to.
>
> I saw a dog. it was running -> {mi viska lo gerku goi ko'a .i ko'a = bajra}
> I saw a dog. it was running -> {mi viska lo gerku .i gy. bajra}
>
> co'o mu'o mi'e la remod
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> On Sat, Nov 24, 20= 12 at 10:04 PM, Annie <park= .an...@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:
> > How do you make a word possessive in Lojban? Also, what are the p= ronouns
> > in Lojban?
>
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