Received: from mail-ye0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:51423) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TcPSJ-0004yt-9R; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:48:25 -0800 Received: by mail-ye0-f189.google.com with SMTP id r9sf3225378yen.16 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:48:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:subject:references:from:x-mailer :in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pBj3P6gwcIcqarmurWVUDs/uCoWmkkinRR3DZn2wkWQ=; b=Om2648Rmyit6VZ8zdO/ZavjVcL16K72RXxjUauoGUxgRNPhaPI2F3p2WBZP8Bdt/vO 4kxxiRGone278shIX1fgUUZOkeng4WBuegnXsgvo6EELeY0PygSRSa/JNWLlW9BRaawv RIsOsUw3f7U5iJmNn546RXhJag0QwBhmY0SnUci1JPAJWKh0ETAmhNAyv/Z9L6VZtuX8 B5KeQsPhAs0mD68ReJux6vxTKgQyQ9mSer8uD1p99u9XFY5DBisdHxL8KxReS0wfg59v aRSkhfGCO1XTF4c3b+6Ffp5qan5uzI9ALbwJpVmPBbzX1a8SK+wyy/uBER2pheey8zbn 3WOA== Received: by 10.49.28.131 with SMTP id b3mr1512982qeh.42.1353800888261; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:48:08 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.117.167 with SMTP id kf7ls32069qeb.40.gmail; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.149.111 with SMTP id w75mr5435040yhj.27.1353800887619; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.149.111 with SMTP id w75mr5435039yhj.27.1353800887607; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gg0-f173.google.com (mail-gg0-f173.google.com [209.85.161.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r6si731075yhc.7.2012.11.24.15.48.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of r.d.t.prater@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.173; Received: by mail-gg0-f173.google.com with SMTP id f2so182307ggn.4 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.82.71 with SMTP id n47mr7886457yhe.16.1353800887435; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (98-159-200-177.scottsboro.org. [98.159.200.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m26sm10883033yhc.17.2012.11.24.15.48.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:48:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IFtsb2piYW4tYmVnaW5uZXJzXSBbYV0gdnMgW+Zd?= References: <6e229b6d-a250-401b-b5f3-608a9c43a41a@googlegroups.com> <3F5ECBD1-CBF1-4978-9D25-EF50E9DFD0F3@asb.gaggle.net> <7AD9A35F-E749-4E68-AA83-A6C0BA034863@asb.gaggle.net> <93E84679-CD82-4F99-86F5-9E1FBB049FFE@switchb.org> <88C5E7EC-3E94-421B-A077-15C24B167A9F@asb.gaggle.net> From: Devin Prater X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10A523) In-Reply-To: <88C5E7EC-3E94-421B-A077-15C24B167A9F@asb.gaggle.net> Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:48:05 -0600 To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Original-Sender: r.d.t.prater@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of r.d.t.prater@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=r.d.t.prater@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 2367 Annie, that's why UEB is very, very useful. Sent from my iPod with gmail On 24 Nov 2012, at 5:26 PM, Annie wrote: Well see, I have an IPod and Refreshabraille. That's the braille display. I= actually have speech off, and the actual words "left brace" or "right brac= e" come up. That's why I have trouble knowing if that's the symbols or the = words. Sent from my iPod On Nov 24, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Kevin Reid wrote: > On Nov 24, 2012, at 14:55, Annie wrote: >=20 >> Then what's all that stuff about left-brace meaning "is similar to"? >=20 > From the footer on your messages which says =93This Email was sent by a s= tudent at School for the Blind=94, I guess that you might be using a text-t= o-speech system. Perhaps it speaks the words =93left brace=94 or =93right b= race=94 when it encounters a brace symbol, such as these: { }. >=20 > Those symbols are being used to quote actual Lojban words, like this: {si= msa}. That was the Lojban word =93simsa=94, in braces; the word means somet= hing like =93is similar to=94. >=20 > --=20 > Kevin Reid >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscrib= e@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an-beginners?hl=3Den. *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.