Received: from mail-ie0-f189.google.com ([209.85.223.189]:53945) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TdAJ2-0002uA-Lr; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:49:54 -0800 Received: by mail-ie0-f189.google.com with SMTP id 17sf2590789iea.16 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:49:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=tfgBrdyLwMW3eE/JePzV72E9Aw359rP8JFvAPa7DRGo=; b=xj8UgIOTfD1HM28+XYf0VIqEvsFHO8skP9eyIlawXXgH/gw75ItKay4sO35Y+Bn32L qqzlbJA1gmTAVBuQ7R+lRbkNH6nAVGkCxYsGCHb55YBQiEO+fBfR3s0xnufKhx8inpEZ aYepb4IhWVYXI3I/K7O8OEKvMzw5nQYV0k6o6IM3teX4ZQcUPcMUYlzrbSf8kGko30Nu XAlitqrb+cBgbqoF3B2qRNDv35zyhaakjrMjJERCMgcbAKMLu337UihNveZMaryuorPg OcDgL7tetp940tuiIjBmRezCmf61uzDWSB+0hIUsZ6kqfl4dqodDIkbE1oa52U7/3yT6 Mz8Q== Received: by 10.49.128.233 with SMTP id nr9mr2758112qeb.27.1353980981585; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:49:41 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.82.101 with SMTP id h5ls2194120qey.44.gmail; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.139.51 with SMTP id b39mr9874541yhj.3.1353980980716; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.139.51 with SMTP id b39mr9874540yhj.3.1353980980704; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id i7si1181406yhj.6.2012.11.26.17.49.40; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553A0388F for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:49:39 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban-beginners] zo braile Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:49:40 -0500 Message-ID: <1376458.ShreGqI8Iq@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-32-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 946 So I've had this word in my head for months, but never really thought about= =20 its place structure. There are Braille encodings for various alphabets and = for=20 music. How about "x1 is written in the Braille encoding for x2"? do'i braile lo zgike It's in Braille for music. Semi-related: How would you lojbanize "Ha=FCy"? Neither "auis" nor "aiis"= =20 (whatever consonant is added) sounds right to me. There were two Ha=FCy=20 brothers; one founded the School for the Blind, and the other invented=20 crystallography. Pierre --=20 li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.