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On Tuesday, November 27, 2012, Annie wrote:

> How can pronouns be so complicated that you have to have a whole chapter
> on them?
>
>
It only seems complicated because you are thinking about them in terms of
pronouns.
In lojban there are no "nouns" and, hence, no "pronouns".
Once you get the basic concepts of sumti and selbri, it will be easier.
Exactly as {lo plise ku} is a sumti the refers to "an apple", {mi} is a
sumti that refers to the current speaker, {ko'a} is a sumti that refers to
whatever I had assigned to it, {ti} refers to something that is close to me
and I'm pointing at  and so on.
This is what we intended when we said that it is better not to try to make
direct comparisons between Lojban and English (or any other language). It
may be useful at the beginning but should not be talen too far.

remod

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On Tuesday, November 27, 2012, Annie  wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>How can pronouns be so complicated that you have=
 to have a whole chapter on them?<br>
<br></div></div></blockquote><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style>=A0</sp=
an><div>It only seems complicated because you are thinking about them in te=
rms of pronouns.=A0</div><div>In lojban there are no &quot;nouns&quot; and,=
 hence, no &quot;pronouns&quot;.</div>
Once you get the basic concepts of sumti and selbri, it will be easier.<div=
></div><div>Exactly as {lo plise ku} is a sumti the refers to &quot;an appl=
e&quot;, {mi} is a sumti that refers to the current speaker, {ko&#39;a} is =
a sumti that refers to whatever I had assigned to it, {ti} refers to someth=
ing that is close to me and I&#39;m pointing at =A0and so on.</div>
<div>This is what we intended when we said that it is better not to try to =
make direct comparisons between Lojban and English (or any other language).=
 It may be useful at the beginning but should not be talen too far.</div>
<div><br></div><div>remod<span></span></div><div></div>

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