Received: from mail-ia0-f189.google.com ([209.85.210.189]:36357) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TXVFq-0008L8-Vi; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 02:59:18 -0800 Received: by mail-ia0-f189.google.com with SMTP id h11sf4422100iae.16 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 02:59:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=MtxrYVyXMdT+5Te4vDT68VXjBmzS94jpKP2zknGvk8g=; b=QN36t5hQK/BALrmZOFcev568jKcEf+p6uST8i2+8o81VY6CO8nlSwvrNuzV9M6KEkq MndxH87XOAjnBZcnCkToiGdBX5OmBQjM4GITeLIwF/vL30n5W4bhYGsSQ0a4ChOLSLba DH+4WSl1UOh56I6j1sAqg3XbyDWDsd7Fp3OLYM2RoZCm4MMaLPFN5f9oLsNH1+kC95oU 6bcxEFJ4ct/UJrEr+Ji7ANMaZZH+rdyWw7T9Zi51J/CVvsfKenQr7arzrXeuaImReWgE O9ZTydRY4gPleuspjiRjXsj48Wix1TgiNgsDXcJIIVHDUdGMc3lvsA4LZ7DVi/4oHQN2 zrVw== Received: by 10.236.110.67 with SMTP id t43mr2110217yhg.6.1352631540044; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 02:59:00 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.149.73 with SMTP id w49ls8345857yhj.5.gmail; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 02:58:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.116.67 with SMTP id f43mr2135333yhh.13.1352631539548; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 02:58:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 02:58:58 -0800 (PST) From: la gleki To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <57fb9885-85cb-4ae1-a10e-6aedc21af147@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <7403CB99-0A65-4E4E-863E-1669A0C6EE40@gmail.com> References: <508D9016.1020409@plasmatix.com> <509D506B.5080404@plasmatix.com> <6172FF49-A563-4A60-81C9-3F95B50FD994@gmail.com> <3abc54a4-874d-4be6-93b5-3263022a36df@googlegroups.com> <7403CB99-0A65-4E4E-863E-1669A0C6EE40@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Questions from a friend MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_125_8861335.1352631538583" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 9905 ------=_Part_125_8861335.1352631538583 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:34:58 PM UTC+4, la .devin.preitr wrote: > > And a question I have, how do you get your vocabulary? And is there any= =20 > online/apps that can help with this? > Do you know about memrise.com? Register there and start learning=20 flashcards. It's free. And not boring. Many people become memrise addicts= =20 after a week of constant using it. For smartphones you can use Anki. It also has Lojban sets. Here are the links for learning Lojban. =E2=9C=94 http://www.lojban.org/tiki/wavelessonscontinued - is a popular te= xtbook =E2=9C=94 http://dag.github.com/cll/ - is the full textbook =E2=9C=94 http://vlasisku.lojban.org/ - is the dictionary =E2=9C=94 http://www.memrise.com/topic/lojban/wordlists/ - is a great place= where=20 you can learn lojban words online. Just *register* on that website, try=20 several courses and use the one that you like most =E2=9C=94 http://lojban.org/jboski - automatic grammar check of what you wr= ite in=20 Lojban (which is unique among all languages!) with English glossing (i.e.= =20 translation). =E2=9C=94 http://camxes.lojban.org/ - Even better than the previous item. B= ut=20 without glossing. =E2=9C=94 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/lojban-beginners - a comm= unity=20 this is where you can ask any questions. =E2=9C=94 http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=3Dckule,jbosnu,jbopre,lojba= n is a=20 chat where you can make friends and ask for help for learning lojban (in=20 #ckule section) > Sent from my iPod with gmail > > On 11 Nov 2012, at 01:12, la gleki >= =20 > wrote: > > > > On Sunday, November 11, 2012 10:20:00 AM UTC+4, la .devin.preitr wrote: >> >> [coi rodo]=20 >> I am attempting to teach a friend of mine from school how to speak=20 >> Lojban. Her native language is Russian > > > coi la .devin.preitr =20 > Short note. For Russians we have a separate group=20 > http://vk.com/menli.bangu. Alternatively, you can give them my e-mail=20 > gleki.is...@gmail.com All the gismu have been translated to= =20 > Russian by far (a separate Russian dictionary is=20 > http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku.ru/badna). Cmavo are almost all=20 > translated, the Wave lessons will be completed soon (according to what I= =20 > was told by the translator). > > , but she basically grew up in a Southern English community, so her=20 >> thought processes, as it seems to me, are a mixture of the two cultures.= A=20 >> few days ago, I was trying to get her to see how the diphthongs in Lojba= n=20 >> are in fact logical, and how the C is logical in the way it is pronounce= d.=20 >> I think there was something else she wanted me to ask about, but I can't= =20 >> remember what it is. Anyways, she basically wants to know how the c is= =20 >> logically phonetic, (she's gotten way too used to the English c I'm=20 >> guessing), but she did observe that the tc makes since if the c makes=20 >> since, but she cannot grasp the need for the c to have the sh sound=20 > > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= =20 > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit=20 > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/1hO0OZ7UigIJ. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-b...@googlegroups.com > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 > lojban-beginne...@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at=20 > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban-beginners/-/tZ5NCv1mJs8J. 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On Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:34:58 PM UTC+4, la .devin.preitr wr= ote:
And= a question I have, how do you get your vocabulary? And is there any online= /apps that can help with this?

<= div>Do you know about memrise.com? Register there and start learning flashc= ards. It's free. And not boring. Many people become memrise addicts after a= week of constant using it.

For smartphones you ca= n use Anki. It also has Lojban sets.

Here are= the links for learning Lojban.
=E2=9C=94 http://www.lojban.org/t= iki/wavelessonscontinued - is a popular textbook
=E2=9C=94 http:/= /dag.github.com/cll/ - is the full textbook
=E2=9C=94 http://vlas= isku.lojban.org/ - is the dictionary
=E2=9C=94 http://www.memrise= .com/topic/lojban/wordlists/ - is a great place where you can learn lojban = words online. Just *register* on that website, try several courses and use = the one that you like most
=E2=9C=94 http://lojban.org/jboski - a= utomatic grammar check of what you write in Lojban (which is unique among a= ll languages!) with English glossing (i.e. translation).
=E2=9C= =94 http://camxes.lojban.org/ - Even better than the previous item. But wit= hout glossing.
=E2=9C=94 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/= lojban-beginners - a community this is where you can ask any questions.
=E2=9C=94 http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=3Dckule,jbosnu,jbopr= e,lojban is a chat where you can make friends and ask for help for learning= lojban (in #ckule section)


Sent from my iPod with g= mail

On 11 Nov 2012, at 01:12, la gleki <gleki.is...= @gmail.com> wrote:



On Sunday, November 11,= 2012 10:20:00 AM UTC+4, la .devin.preitr wrote:
[coi rodo]
I am attempting to teach a friend of mine from school how to speak Lojb= an. Her native language is Russian

 co= i la .devin.preitr  
Short note. For Russians we have a= separate group htt= p://vk.com/menli.bangu. Alternatively, you can give them my e-mail gleki.is...@gmail.com All the gismu have been translated to Russian b= y far (a separate Russian dictionary is http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vla= sisku.ru/badna). Cmavo are almost all translated, the Wave lessons will= be completed soon (according to what I was told by the translator).
<= div>
, but she basically g= rew up in a Southern English community, so her thought processes, as it see= ms to me, are a mixture of the two cultures. A few days ago, I was trying t= o get her to see how the diphthongs in Lojban are in fact logical, and how = the C is logical in the way it is pronounced. I think there was something e= lse she wanted me to ask about, but I can't remember what it is. Anyways, s= he basically wants to know how the c is logically phonetic, (she's gotten w= ay too used to the English c I'm guessing), but she did observe that the tc= makes since if the c makes since, but she cannot grasp the need for the c = to have the sh sound

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