Can't you just say "la'e me'o denpa= bu", without "lo me..."?

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What's the real difference between &q= uot;me" and "la'e"?

Well for starters, their grammatical functions are e= ntirely different, but in particular, me means "x1 is among the refere= nts of [sumti]"; not sure off the top of my head what the x2 does unde= r xorlo / xorxo {me}. As for {la'e}, it dereferences the sumti, and ref= ers to those things to which the symbol of the sumti are indicative. In oth= er words, {la'e zoi url http://example.o= rg url} differs drastically from {lo me zoi url http://example.org url} because the former refers to the actual= web site or its content, whereas the second refers still to another text.<= /div>
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<= div>And one more thing I would like to ask:
How do you express &q= uot;triple periods" in lojban? For example, when someone start saying = something but doesn't finish the sentence, but rather fade out in the m= iddle of it, or similar cases.

Fading out like that = can be ungrammatical in some cases, but in others it's something I'= m not entirely sure how to render in Lojban.

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And is there any lojbanic way to show tha= t text has been omitted, for example in quotations?

Of course, there's a cmavo for that= {li'o}. It's a UI, so a free modifier, and the surrounding text ne= eds to stay grammatical.

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<= div>mu'omi'e jongausib

Skickat fr=E5n min iPhone

21 nov 2012 kl. 02:08 skrev Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>:

<= div>
Well, a minor detail: = {me'o denpa bu} refers to the actual symbol, but in the common IRC parl= ance, there're a few ways to actually refer to the concept of the "= ;pause" (which isn't actually necessarily a pause; the glottal sto= p is just a sound like any other, but it has the alternative of being subst= ituted for by silence). Among others, there's {lo me denpa bu} which ha= s the obvious issue of {denpa bu} referring to something ('cause letter= als can be pronouns). {lo me la'e me'o denpa bu} but that's jus= t too verbose for anyone to ever say. That being said, the way that I advoc= ate, which is also advocated by some others, is {lo depybu'i} which mak= es surprising use of {bu}'s rafsi, -bu'i-.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

=
On 20 November 2012 16:38, Ross Ogilvie <r= oss@rossogilvie.id.au> wrote:

A full stop in lojban represents a pause in = speech. You need to pause in speech to show that the next word begins with = a vowel, or that you have finished saying a name.

English uses a full stop to separate sentences. The way to separate sen= tences in lojban is to use the word "i". Because it's a word = beginning with a vowel, it is normally written with a full stop before it. = eg

ti mlatu .i ta gerku
This is a cat. That is a dog

But it is t= he word "i", not the full stop that is separating the sentences.<= br>
The word in lojban for the full stop is "denpabu", ie &quo= t;the pause letter"

-- Ross

On 21= November 2012 11:09, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

It seems like there's a lot of periods, fullstops in Lojban. Why would = you want to put them either at the beginning or in the middle of a word?
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