Received: from mail-pb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:56173) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TdUgZ-00033G-LS; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:35:36 -0800 Received: by mail-pb0-f61.google.com with SMTP id wz12sf9296015pbc.16 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:35:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=OdYIYGlDBDjWFo5A1Rm8Os/kA+oBQm4qfIaRITXByOM=; b=FbdNrJqeYIbwVTCSjLiRrE1mVSP9pWEY9JwwZLATWa5v33ZtjXcyelpxicgiUsyQp8 tyfVPPsCXq/vgILgdRgKYmFVqyGsEGf/m73ldPDHpEeCu0+8VDZHcOPpC4hmFySgNfwv Lgef25vUQpAHdut4kTmHnvgCzqJWpGWvHVL6itI8Hndx7u6jPGbZi7bEwMaCuq0YbuUI Ximlx2Ub1pslA6OOJC7J1ttVoRAktz638XaTEJcxTaymxWzXcRRxxCGD6XiCjwyFbCYT YWzI2wB3T1/1gNEz6JP5RwLkknq+UY94lYN4Moah7iN31ojuwRcf5j0BAE/Ye/mSeXXc +E/w== Received: by 10.50.236.74 with SMTP id us10mr7458465igc.3.1354059319564; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:35:19 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.1.142 with SMTP id 14ls4319339igm.32.gmail; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.181.233 with SMTP id dz9mr15883591igc.1.1354059318456; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.181.233 with SMTP id dz9mr15883590igc.1.1354059318428; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o7si316379igl.0.2012.11.27.15.35.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.179; Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id x4so783929obh.10 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:35:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.4.231 with SMTP id n7mr11689457oen.30.1354059318166; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:35:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.14.7 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 15:35:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1813213.3IIWNj8jIR@caracal> References: <3AD9ACF2-9875-4BC8-86C1-65D29ADB8226@asb.gaggle.net> <1813213.3IIWNj8jIR@caracal> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:35:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Possessives From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1cb06aa065604cf828035 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 4442 --e89a8ff1cb06aa065604cf828035 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Which does bring in an interesting philosophic question (which maybe Annie was alluding to): If you used vo'a in that sentence, what would it refer to? la djan? le bruna be la lizbet (which is what I assume you meant to write, not "brata") or both? ("fa la djan. klama le ckule fa le bruna pe la lizbet. lo zdani be vo'a") But that's outside the scope of a beginner's list. --gejyspa On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:12:35 Annie wrote: > > what do you d if a word has, for example, more than one x1 or whatever? > > You say "fa" twice: > fa la .djan. klama le ckule fa le brata pe la .lizbet. > This gives you no clue whether John is Lizbeth's brother or what. It's like > sticking two feet in one shoe, and is very rarely done. > > Pierre > -- > li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du > li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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=A0 Which does bring in an interesting philosophic questio= n (which maybe Annie was alluding to): If you used vo'a in that sentenc= e, what would it refer to? la djan? le bruna be la lizbet (which is what I = assume you meant to write, not "brata") or both? ("fa la dja= n. klama le ckule fa le bruna pe la lizbet. lo zdani be vo'a") =A0= But that's outside the scope of a beginner's list.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa


O= n Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Tuesday, November 27, 2= 012 11:12:35 Annie wrote:
> what do you d if a word has, for example, more than one x1 or whatever= ?

You say "fa" twice:
fa la .djan. klama le ckule fa le brata pe la .lizbet.
This gives you no clue whether John is Lizbeth's brother or what. It= 9;s like
sticking two feet in one shoe, and is very rarely done.

Pierre
--
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

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