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  vo'a means "the thing that is the first sumti (argument),  in the main
bridi in this sentence  (That is, "x1")"  (vo'e means the second, and so
forth).  So for example, a sentence like "lo mlatu poi vo'e citkygau cu
prami lo ponse be vo'a" means "A cat which is fed by its owner loves them"
(but more literally, it means "a cat which the second thing in this
sentence feeds loves the owner of the first thing in this sentence")  There
are many other ways to say this of course, but this is just for example.

          --gejyspa

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

> What does vo'a mean?
>
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> On Nov 27, 2012, at 11:16 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 18:35:18 Michael Turniansky wrote:
> >>  Which does bring in an interesting philosophic question (which maybe
> >> Annie was alluding to): If you used vo'a in that sentence, what would it
> >> refer to? la djan? le bruna be la lizbet (which is what I assume you
> meant
> >> to write, not "brata") or both? ("fa la djan. klama le ckule fa le
> bruna pe
> >> la lizbet. lo zdani be vo'a")  But that's outside the scope of a
> beginner's
> >> list.
> >
> > Yes of course "bruna". "brata" is Tok Pisin. I consider the referent of
> "vo'a"
> > in that sentence unclear.
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> > ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=A0 vo&#39;a means &quot;the thing that is the first sumti=
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quot;)&quot;=A0 (vo&#39;e means the second, and so forth). =A0So for exampl=
e, a sentence like &quot;lo mlatu poi vo&#39;e citkygau cu prami lo ponse b=
e vo&#39;a&quot; means &quot;A cat which is fed by its owner loves them&quo=
t; (but more literally, it means &quot;a cat which the second thing in this=
 sentence feeds loves the owner of the first thing in this sentence&quot;) =
=A0There are many other ways to say this of course, but this is=A0just=A0fo=
r example. =A0<br>
<br>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu=
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ark.annie@asb.gaggle.net" target=3D"_blank">park.annie@asb.gaggle.net</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">What does vo&#39;a mean?<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPod<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Nov 27, 2012, at 11:16 PM, Pierre Abbat &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@bezit=
opo.org">phma@bezitopo.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 18:35:18 Michael Turniansky wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; =A0Which does bring in an interesting philosophic question (which =
maybe<br>
&gt;&gt; Annie was alluding to): If you used vo&#39;a in that sentence, wha=
t would it<br>
&gt;&gt; refer to? la djan? le bruna be la lizbet (which is what I assume y=
ou meant<br>
&gt;&gt; to write, not &quot;brata&quot;) or both? (&quot;fa la djan. klama=
 le ckule fa le bruna pe<br>
&gt;&gt; la lizbet. lo zdani be vo&#39;a&quot;) =A0But that&#39;s outside t=
he scope of a beginner&#39;s<br>
&gt;&gt; list.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Yes of course &quot;bruna&quot;. &quot;brata&quot; is Tok Pisin. I con=
sider the referent of &quot;vo&#39;a&quot;<br>
&gt; in that sentence unclear.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Pierre<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; ve ka&#39;a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji<br>
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