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On Friday, November 30, 2012 09:00:23 hugesmile@hotmail.com wrote:
> How does {se / te / ve / xe} affect {vo'a}?
> For example, let's say in your sentence, we use {se prami}, and move some
> stuff around.
> 
> Which is correct?
> 
> "lo ponse be vo'e cu se prami lo mlatu poi vo'a citkygau"
>       or
> "lo ponse be vo'a cu se prami lo mlatu poi vo'e citkygau"
>      or
> something else?

The first. The second means that someone owns himself and the cat feeds 
herself. The selbri is "se prami".

Pierre
-- 
lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko

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