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On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 6:17 AM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 1 December 2012 12:09, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is just what {se srana} or {selra'a} is.
>
> An about, a thematic focus, is more specific than that. cfika2, for
> instance, may be as much relevant to cfika1 as cfika3 may be -- a work
> of fiction cu srana both its plot and its author (and possibly many
> other things). Consider:
>
> la .alis. cfika sera'a lo nixli
>
> This doesn't necessarily say that the plot revolves around a girl --
> it could as well be saying the work is dedicated to a girl.
>

I'm sorry, I don't see how anything based on {srana} could possibly mean
"dedicated to". You'll have to explain.


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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 6:17 AM, tijlan <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jbotijlan@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jboti=
jlan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On 1 December 2012 12:09, ianek &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jan=
ek37@gmail.com">janek37@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; This is just what {se srana} or {selra&#39;a} is.<br>
<br>
</div>An about, a thematic focus, is more specific than that. cfika2, for<b=
r>
instance, may be as much relevant to cfika1 as cfika3 may be -- a work<br>
of fiction cu srana both its plot and its author (and possibly many<br>
other things). Consider:<br>
<br>
la .alis. cfika sera&#39;a lo nixli<br>
<br>
This doesn&#39;t necessarily say that the plot revolves around a girl --<br=
>
it could as well be saying the work is dedicated to a girl.<br></blockquote=
><div><br>I&#39;m sorry, I don&#39;t see how anything based on {srana} coul=
d possibly mean &quot;dedicated to&quot;. You&#39;ll have to explain.<br>
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