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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Srana is a gismu, so why are you doubting that? Sent from my iPod On Dec 5, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Sebastian wrote: [...] Content analysis details: (1.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.1 DATE_IN_PAST_03_06 Date: is 3 to 6 hours before Received: date 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature Content-Length: 2475 Srana is a gismu, so why are you doubting that? Sent from my iPod On Dec 5, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Sebastian wrote: > Could you say that {srana} is a gismu-equivalent of {pe}? But perhaps wit= h a bit more asymmetrric relation between x1 and x2, as the note for {srana= } suggest? >=20 > In either case I think it's not wrong to say that dedication is a form of= "associated with". Still {srana} and {pe} is definitely vaguer than "dedic= ation", so maybe a lujvo would be more approriate? >=20 > mu'omi'e jongausib >=20 > Skickat fr=E5n min iPhone >=20 > 5 dec 2012 kl. 17:44 skrev tijlan : >=20 >> On 4 December 2012 22:45, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:29 PM, tijlan wrote: >>>> Still, "x1 is dedicated to x2" is a kind of relation, just as "x1 >>>> plans x2 for process x3" (platu) is. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Yes, but neither of those are srana. >>=20 >> If "x1 is dedicated to x2" wasn't a subset of {srana}, of "x1 is >> related to x2", then it couldn't be covered by {pe} either -- we >> couldn't say {lo cukta pe lo nixli} to imply that the book is >> dedicated to the girl. 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