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[208.81.237.185]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id h50si586070yhi.3.2012.12.01.14.49.44; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:49:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of park.annie@asb.gaggle.net designates 208.81.237.185 as permitted sender) client-ip=208.81.237.185; Received: (qmail 12079 invoked by uid 358); 1 Dec 2012 22:49:43 -0000 Received: from [10.0.32.2] (HELO web7.gaggle.net) (10.0.32.2) by mx5.gaggle.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTP; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:49:43 -0800 Received: from [98.81.96.249] (HELO [10.0.1.6]) (98.81.96.249) (smtp-auth username Park.Annie@asb.gaggle.net, mechanism plain) by mx9.gaggle.net (qpsmtpd/0.83) with ESMTPA; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:40:40 -0800 Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] zo braile References: <1376458.ShreGqI8Iq@caracal> <50B54110.6060208@plasmatix.com> <4264971.qkT2t5vedG@caracal> From: Annie X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10A523) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1A410B81-C6A3-4DF8-A4AF-EDD43B679304@asb.gaggle.net> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 14:40:29 -0800 (PST) To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on mx9.gaggle.net X-Gaggle-Info: *** This Email was sent by a student at School for the Blind. 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Sent from my iPod On Nov 30, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote: On 30 November 2012 11:33, jongausib <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote: brailyle'u is not a valid lujvo. You can't have a fu'ivla and a gismu as a veljvo. In that case you'll have to use "zei". Actually, {braile} being of the form CCVVCV is one of the forms to which (even) the CLL assigns what it calls a fu'ivla rafsi. Maybe you recall the example of {tci'ile} that it uses to demonstrate a use-case of this proposal? Regardless, as selpa'i mentioned, the PEG gives a rafsi to *every* fu'ivla (even {.irci}, for example). That being said, we could create a lujvo for "irc bot" {.irci'yzmi}. .i mi'e la tsani mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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What are veljvo and rafci?

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On Nov 30, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Jacob Erringto= n <nictytan@gmail.com> wrot= e:

On 30 November 2012 11:33, j= ongausib <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:
brailyle'u is not a valid lujvo. You can't have a fu'ivla and a gismu as a = veljvo. In that case you'll have to use "zei".

Actually, {braile} being of the form CCVVCV is one of the forms to = which (even) the CLL assigns what it calls a fu'ivla rafsi. Maybe you recal= l the example of {tci'ile} that it uses to demonstrate a use-case of this p= roposal?

Regardless, as selpa'i mentioned, the PEG gives a rafsi= to *every* fu'ivla (even {.irci}, for example). That being said, we could = create a lujvo for "irc bot" {.irci'yzmi}.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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