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What if, for example, two people gave one thing !one or more people? Wouldn't that be more than one x1 and, mazbe more than one x3?
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On Nov 27, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Remo Dentato <<rdentato@gmail.com>rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
By definition, any selbri has one, and only one, "x1".
"x1" is the conventional name we use to indicate the first sumti place, "x2" is the second sumti place and so on.
It's not a strict rule, you can use othe means to indicate the sumti places of a selbri. Still there can only be one first place, one second place etc.
remod
On Tuesday, November 27, 2012, Annie wrote:
what do you d if a word has, for example, more than one x1 or whatever?
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On Tuesday, November 27, 2012, Annie wrote:
How can pronouns be so complicated that you have to have a whole chapter on them?
It only seems complicated because you are thinking about them in terms of pronouns.
In lojban there are no "nouns" and, hence, no "pronouns". Once you get the basic concepts of sumti and selbri, it will be easier.
Exactly as {lo plise ku} is a sumti the refers to "an apple", {mi} is a sumti that refers to the current speaker, {ko'a} is a sumti that refers to whatever I had assigned to it, {ti} refers to something that is close to me and I'm pointing at and so on.
This is what we intended when we said that it is better not to try to make direct comparisons between Lojban and English (or any other language). It may be useful at the beginning but should not be talen too far.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
=3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>What if, for example, two people g=
ave one thing !one or more people? Wouldn't that be more than one x1 and, m=
azbe more than one x3?<br><br>Sent from my iPod</div><div><br>On Nov 27, 20=
12, at 1:50 PM, Remo Dentato &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com">rden=
tato@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>B=
y definition, any selbri has one, and only one, "x1".<div>&nbsp;<br>"x1" is=
 the conventional name we use to indicate the first sumti place, "x2" is th=
e second sumti place and so on.<br><br>It's not a strict rule, you can use =
othe means to indicate the sumti places of a selbri. Still there can only b=
e one first place, one second place etc.<br>
<br></div><div>remod<br><br></div><br><div>On Tuesday, November 27, 2012, A=
nnie  wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>what =
do you d if a word has, for example, more than one x1 or whatever?<br>

<br>Sent from my iPod</div><div><br>On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:55 AM, Remo Dent=
ato &lt;<a>rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Tuesday, November 27, 2012, Annie  wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>How can pronouns =
be so complicated that you have to have a whole chapter on them?<br>


<br></div></div></blockquote><span>&nbsp;</span><div>It only seems complica=
ted because you are thinking about them in terms of pronouns.&nbsp;</div><d=
iv>In lojban there are no "nouns" and, hence, no "pronouns".</div>


Once you get the basic concepts of sumti and selbri, it will be easier.<div=
></div><div>Exactly as {lo plise ku} is a sumti the refers to "an apple", {=
mi} is a sumti that refers to the current speaker, {ko'a} is a sumti that r=
efers to whatever I had assigned to it, {ti} refers to something that is cl=
ose to me and I'm pointing at &nbsp;and so on.</div>


<div>This is what we intended when we said that it is better not to try to =
make direct comparisons between Lojban and English (or any other language).=
 It may be useful at the beginning but should not be talen too far.</div>


<div><br></div><div>remod<span></span></div><div></div>

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