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Sent from my iPod On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:32 PM, la gleki <gleki.i= s.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:14:56 PM UTC+4, Anton Golov wrote: braile can't be a gismu for it as it doesn't obey the gismu format (CCVCV o= r CVCCV). What about pecban (or pecbau), a combination of touch and languag= e? but what's wrong with fu'ivla that is besides easily recognisable? On 27 November 2012 05:10, Pierre Abbat <<>ph...@bezitopo.org> wrote: On Monday, November 26, 2012 21:58:55 Annie wrote: > How do you pronounce "Ha=FAy"? I'm confused. What are you talking about w= ith > the braille stuff? It's "Ha=FCy", not "Ha=FAy". It's pronounced as three vowels: a as in fathe= r, u as in French su, ee as in see. The two dots on "u" are there because otherwise "au" would be pronounced as one vowel. =ABbraile=BB is a Lojban word I made up for "Braille", but I'm not sure of = the place structure. Pierre -- Don't buy a French car in Holland. 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I know this might be a late respon= se, but braile can't be a gismu because it has more than 5 letters.

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On Nov 27, 2012, at 12:32 PM, la gleki <= gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:



On Tuesday= , November 27, 2012 5:14:56 PM UTC+4, Anton Golov wrote:
braile can't be a gismu for it as it doesn't ob= ey the gismu format (CCVCV or CVCCV).  What about pecban (or pecbau), = a combination of touch and language?

but wh= at's wrong with fu'ivla that is besides easily recognisable? 


On 27 November 2012 05:10, Pierre Abbat <= ph...@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Monday, November 26, 2012 21:58:55 A= nnie wrote:
> How do you pronounce "Ha=FAy"? I'm confused. What are you talking abou= t with
> the braille stuff?

It's "Ha=FCy", not "Ha=FAy". It's pronounced as three vowels: a as in= father, u as
in French su, ee as in see. The two dots on "u" are there because otherwise=
"au" would be pronounced as one vowel.

=ABbraile=BB is a Lojban word I made up for "Braille", but I'm not sure of = the
place structure.

Pierre
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