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On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

> What would it be called if you borrowed a word from a different language,
> like if you didn't know a Lojban word?
>

A fu'ivla.


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> > On Saturday, December 01, 2012 14:40:29 Annie wrote:
> >> What are veljvo and rafci?
> >
> > A veljvo is the compound phrase that a compound word is made from. For
> > instance, the veljvo of "larlermorna" is "larcu lerfu morna". In Lojban
> one
> > would say "lu larcu lerfu morna li'u veljvo fo zo larlermorna", since
> "vel-"
> > (which is the rafsi of "ve") switches x1 and x4.
> >
> > A rafsi is a combining form, also called a bound morpheme. "lar-" is a
> rafsi
> > of "larcu".
> >
> > A fu'ivla is a borrowed word. Often "fu'ivla" is used to refer to the
> Lojban
> > word forms used for borrowed words, even if the "word" being discussed
> (such
> > as "agbagba", one of several wordoids made out of a few different
> letters) is
> > meaningless. A word of fu'ivla form whose source is something other than
> a
> > foreign language is called a zi'evla, e.g. "vonpaso", which is from
> Lojban
> > number words.
> >
> > Pierre
> > --
> > Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Annie <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:park.annie@asb.gaggle.net" target=3D"_blank"=
>park.annie@asb.gaggle.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">
What would it be called if you borrowed a word from a different language, l=
ike if you didn&#39;t know a Lojban word?<br></blockquote><div><br>A fu&#39=
;ivla.<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


Sent from my iPod<br>
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On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Pierre Abbat &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@bezitop=
o.org">phma@bezitopo.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; On Saturday, December 01, 2012 14:40:29 Annie wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; What are veljvo and rafci?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A veljvo is the compound phrase that a compound word is made from. For=
<br>
&gt; instance, the veljvo of &quot;larlermorna&quot; is &quot;larcu lerfu m=
orna&quot;. In Lojban one<br>
&gt; would say &quot;lu larcu lerfu morna li&#39;u veljvo fo zo larlermorna=
&quot;, since &quot;vel-&quot;<br>
&gt; (which is the rafsi of &quot;ve&quot;) switches x1 and x4.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A rafsi is a combining form, also called a bound morpheme. &quot;lar-&=
quot; is a rafsi<br>
&gt; of &quot;larcu&quot;.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; A fu&#39;ivla is a borrowed word. Often &quot;fu&#39;ivla&quot; is use=
d to refer to the Lojban<br>
&gt; word forms used for borrowed words, even if the &quot;word&quot; being=
 discussed (such<br>
&gt; as &quot;agbagba&quot;, one of several wordoids made out of a few diff=
erent letters) is<br>
&gt; meaningless. A word of fu&#39;ivla form whose source is something othe=
r than a<br>
&gt; foreign language is called a zi&#39;evla, e.g. &quot;vonpaso&quot;, wh=
ich is from Lojban<br>
&gt; number words.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Pierre<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Don&#39;t buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen.<br>
&gt;<br>
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