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How do you get "is dedicated to" o= ut of "is related to"? Besides, someone was trying to say that a more-than-= five-letter word meaos "dedicate". How is that possible, when it's not a gi= smu? Why do you need two words that mean practically the same in Lojb= anhis Isn't that illogicalhis

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On Dec= 2, 2012, at 1:05 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, December 2, 2012 10:52:54 AM UTC+4, aio= nys wrote:
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Jonathan Jones &l= t;eye...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:09 PM, la gleki <= span dir=3D"ltr"><gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> On Sunday, December 2, 2012 1:30:39 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 6= :17 AM, tijlan <jbot...@gmail.com> wr= ote:

On 1 December 2012 12:09, ianek <jan...@gmail.com> wrote:=
> This is just what {se srana} or {selra'a} is.

An about, a thematic focus, is more specific than that. cfika2, for instance, may be as much relevant to cfika1 as cfika3 may be -- a work
of fiction cu srana both its plot and its author (and possibly many
other things). Consider:

la .alis. cfika sera'a lo nixli

This doesn't necessarily say that the plot revolves around a girl --
it could as well be saying the work is dedicated to a girl.

I'm sorry, I don't see how anything based on {srana} could possib= ly mean "dedicated to". You'll have to explain.

Well, may be it's not th= at something is wrong with {sera'a/pe/srana} but rather wrong usage and/or = glossing.

srana x1 pertains to/is germane/= relevant to/concerns/is related/associated with/is about x2.
ckini x1 is related to/associated with/akin to x2 by relation= ship x3.

If we arbitrarily chose parts of thos= e definitions we'd get
srana x1 is relevant to x2
ck= ini x1 is relevant to x2

which is nonsense.

ckini wo= uldn't be that. For one thing, you left out the x3, and for another, it isn= 't "relevant", it's "related". The Cold War isn't relevant to WWII, but it = is related (by being a direct result of it).

If {srana} = really gives us thematic role then all the other "is relevant to" meanings = can be assigned to {ckini/seki'i}.

Furthermore, you= r response does not show how one can get "dedicated to" out of srana.

I can't explain tijlan's views.

Fo= r me "dedicated to..." is {tecu'u}, may be with a shade of {sinma} (i.e. fi= 'o sia'rtersku)

{finfriti} from jvs doesn't sound right for me (p= robably due to polysemy of "to dedicqte").

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