Received: from mail-pa0-f55.google.com ([209.85.220.55]:64829) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TirUB-0002gx-C6; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:57:06 -0800 Received: by mail-pa0-f55.google.com with SMTP id fb1sf649588pad.0 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:56:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=h8eP6GqC0Gj/7m7D8XcyH6/L677y1eYXQXs+mPw3oKU=; b=vhdaxWE3nMELDPv1U/2hx4aymWRoGUZzCSvRWwARCSBp2IAxHwE60MJXwZs7SyCWEs 4DQyL/C+EvgfSIqyWMq09gEodrz0G1/k/MWmXi5mFDHB7LqaaVggqArnHjVx3rYRUrsC 8lg8UeNmtGZ5axKDBK3VJLdWknZaXMURAB3qXKHlU5bixZgW4KBaFrPL1ESODJeFrHIQ Y3R2bvM9CgEJkt3Ga8P8BSDBeP3owGkpC+zBpx1me5+U6nhIRuE/MLIopQVdVEHqR5ki Tb2nqUWjIbELYhDMWFVGJo777XvgWoEKyjQdJOVDQp7fv5uGmmySMULteJkOH45PQD3n OjJw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=h8eP6GqC0Gj/7m7D8XcyH6/L677y1eYXQXs+mPw3oKU=; b=waWxaW0Bb5PfLSNL1YcJt+H2FaWrRY5QwPAkzntNYv6/XR9/i4vwwo8vUXLtlgTNAx 4BheTVtmk8kTcvKqTy1+Obmpqa0uiSShVirbMUh8cDIHKApstE8l/zyjxnCYG9dPKGxS BUWAi+zbf3kmhjEvwVMMAhpyB6C5StYwzHyAgSUsjmFysBZpFdhNPpqHIgpjEQcFeDHq kdF0fPZnVl4V3zWMFfZG2v8dd62LzNtEb+W4DJQSFp2zEP0Dsvj9Txrj93TQCawNXLyo qc1DSUtiuhaibF+lH31gSXQgnyiHyqCeuAW2lo23SdQiO707Z2WdnIf1HfjfJd2PqutT qDsg== Received: by 10.49.24.13 with SMTP id q13mr754645qef.33.1355338605068; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:56:45 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.49.3 with SMTP id q3ls1435219qen.53.gmail; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.15.38 with SMTP id u6mr742853qec.8.1355338603442; Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:56:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:56:42 -0800 (PST) From: lomicmenes To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <9847786f-9f72-445a-acc2-9a726f556e16@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <2802435.XvCs7thJ1p@caracal> References: <71e279a0-fbe2-4e0c-a630-ba5eb98928f1@googlegroups.com> <2802435.XvCs7thJ1p@caracal> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5Blojban=2Dbeginners=5D_Ebauche_=E0_propose_de_Galil=E9?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e=2FMicro=2Dstub_about_Galileo_Galilei?= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: axelgougam@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_292_28773809.1355338602204" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 5751 ------=_Part_292_28773809.1355338602204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I made the fixes. Now I wonder if ni'o ko'a jbena li 1564 pi'e 2 pi'e 15 boi bevede'i lo=20 latmo veldetri pe la iulius.kaisar. is correct. Does boi correctly end the= =20 number but not the sumti ? Thank you for your answers. I'll remember for the dates. By the way I wrote a lot of them wrong=20 already... mu'o mi'e la lomicmenes Le lundi 10 d=E9cembre 2012 18:39:07 UTC+1, Pierre Abbat a =E9crit : > > On Monday, December 10, 2012 11:05:42 .arpis. wrote:=20 > > The first thing I noticed is that you used {zoi} incorrectly: you need = a=20 > > word to serve as the terminator (any word; it doesn't matter which); fo= r=20 > > example, {zoy cmy Galileo Galilei cmy}.=20 > > I saw "la'o zoi. Galileo Galilei zoi.", in which "zoi" is used correctly,= =20 > as=20 > the terminator. "la'o" and "zoi" are in the same selma'o' and it's not=20 > uncommon to use "zoi" as the terminator.=20 > > The dates, though, I'd write the other way around, if they're all numbers= .=20 > Numbers connected with "pi'e" should be ordered most significant first, i= f=20 > one=20 > is more significant than another; also this agrees with the ISO format.= =20 > ISO=20 > 8601 was apparently issued shortly after the fork of Lojban, so I don't= =20 > blame=20 > Bob or John for not knowing about it; but it's now in common use on=20 > international Web pages, including Wikipedia. The order is day-month-year= =20 > when=20 > the month is spelled out: le 8moi be le .ianvari be le 1642moi.=20 > > The veldetri should be given; the change from Julian to Gregorian started= =20 > during his lifetime. See https://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/latmo_veldetri .= =20 > > "mivcitri" needs an interfix. I'd leave the apostrophes out of his name.= =20 > > At first I thought you meant Galilee in Israel (the end of the subject=20 > line=20 > didn't appear until I clicked on the message). :)=20 > > Pierre=20 > --=20 > I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.=20 > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban-beginners/-/n4ZkRHBl1i0J. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. ------=_Part_292_28773809.1355338602204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I made the fixes.
Now I wonder if ni'o ko'a = jbena li 1564 pi'e 2 pi'e 15 boi bevede'i lo latmo veldetri pe la iulius.ka= isar. is correct. Does boi correctly end the number but not the sumti ?
Thank you for your answers.
I'll remember for = the dates. By the way I wrote a lot of them wrong already...

=
mu'o mi'e la lomicmenes

Le lundi 10 d=E9cembre 2012 18:39= :07 UTC+1, Pierre Abbat a =E9crit :
On Monday, December 10, 2012 11:05:42 .arpis. wrote:
> The first thing I noticed is that you used {zoi} incorrectly: you = need a
> word to serve as the terminator (any word; it doesn't matter which= ); for
> example, {zoy cmy Galileo Galilei cmy}.

I saw "la'o zoi. Galileo Galilei zoi.", in which "zoi" is used correctl= y, as=20
the terminator. "la'o" and "zoi" are in the same selma'o' and it's not= =20
uncommon to use "zoi" as the terminator.

The dates, though, I'd write the other way around, if they're all numbe= rs.=20
Numbers connected with "pi'e" should be ordered most significant first,= if one=20
is more significant than another; also this agrees with the ISO format.= ISO=20
8601 was apparently issued shortly after the fork of Lojban, so I don't= blame=20
Bob or John for not knowing about it; but it's now in common use on=20
international Web pages, including Wikipedia. The order is day-month-ye= ar when=20
the month is spelled out: le 8moi be le .ianvari be le 1642moi.

The veldetri should be given; the change from Julian to Gregorian start= ed=20
during his lifetime. See https://jbo.wikipedia.org/wiki/latmo_vel= detri .

"mivcitri" needs an interfix. I'd leave the apostrophes out of his name= .

At first I thought you meant Galilee in Israel (the end of the subject = line=20
didn't appear until I clicked on the message). :)

Pierre
--=20
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.

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