I don't know where in chapte= r five the cll might give the impression that the bridi excludes the selbri= in some way. A bridi is a predication, and a predication can be a sentence= , but it isn't necessarily one. Much like in natural languages, you can nes= t "sentences" in Lojban.

e.g. .i mi djica lo du'u lo mudri cu se fagri -> "I know that the wood i= s on fire."

The catch is that not all sentences in Lojban are bridi = {.i ui} is a valid sentence, but it is not a bridi.

Strictly speaking, the simplest bridi is just a selbri,= e.g. {.i citka}, as all the sumti are therefore implied to be filled with = {zo'e}. But a bridi *must* have sumti.

.i mi'e la = tsani mu'o

On 11 December 2012 16:00, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

oh wow. what other dames do you have for that book? = speaking of cll, it looks to me, from chapter 5, that a bridi is a sentence= without the selbri. am i understanding this correctly because if so, why w= ould you want to use a bunch of sumti without a selbri? the sentence wouldn= 't make s5se, it seems.

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On Dec 11, 2012,= at 2:03 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry... I just think it's cool that it has a whole bunch of names and= well, we're also known for giving long-winded answers for no real reason, = haha.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 11 December 2012 13:29, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net>= ; wrote:

You could have just said "CLL".

Sent from my = iPod

On Dec 11, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Jacob Errington = <nictytan@gmail.= com> wrote:

It's one of the CLL's many names.<= div>* The Complete Lojban Language
* The Red Book
* The= Codex Woldemar
* The Book

It's the lang= uage's complete grammar description. Orika Okrent, who wrote "In the Land o= f Invented Languages" says that the CLL is one of the most complete grammat= ical descriptions of any constructed language. Calling it "The Red Book" st= ems from the colour of the cover, whereas "The Codex Woldemar" which is jus= t an overly fancy way of referring to it, comes from its author's name, Joh= n Woldemar Cowan.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 11 December 2012 10:39, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net&g= t; wrote:

=
what is the red book?

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